Okay. So let’s say you determine the CEO is worthy of execution. I assume you would have no problem walking up and putting a bullet in the back of his head then.
How about the people who work with him, sat in on the meetings and reached a consensus. on this issue. That is how things are done. If you don’t know, I can tell you for a fact that is how it is done.
Are those people who helped make that decision as they sat around that table complicit in the murder of hundreds or thousands of people?
If the answer is yes, I presume you would be willing to shoot those people in the back of the head as well?
How about the people who took their marching orders from the people who made the decision, created policies and procedures to carry out those orders, made adjustment to the computer systems that manage it, and created new workflows to execute the policies that were carried out resulting in the deaths of hundreds or thousands of people. Are you going to shoot those people in the back of the head, all the way down to the person behind the window talking to the patient who says “Your insurance claim has been denied. There is no recourse, you will have to pay.” Shoot her too? Right there in the lobby of the hospital, right through the glass.
But if the answer is no, they are not complicit, why not? Is it because all those people below the CEO were just following orders that resulted in the death of “hundreds or thousands” of people and are not responsible? It seems just that they were powerless employees who just did what they were told, right?
So, if you answer yes, that they are culpable, they they ALL, top to bottom, from the CEO to the cold clerk who tells the patient they have no recourse, all of them, should be taken out and shot in the back of the head, and YOU, someone who posts as an ostensible conservative on THIS forum, would be fully willing to carry out those executions?
If you answer no, and you feel that those people below the CEO are just following orders, they have no power to refuse orders from above and are just insignificant drones who have no choice in the matter. In other words, they were just following orders. Is THAT your stance? The CEO is culpable and fully deserving of a .45 ACP to the back of the neck, but everyone else was just following orders?
I know you are likely not a complete dunce, and you can see exactly what the point is.
If the answer is YES, you believe the CEO is complicit and you yourself would be willing to carry out the execution, then you must extend that “punishment” down to everyone who touched it, right up to the person who spoke to the patient. You must own that.
If the answer is NO, and that the people underneath are not responsible for carrying out this exploitation of the suffering of humans who need medical care to gain profit even though those people down the chain actually did the denying straight to the patient’s face (as the CEO did not) again...who IS responsible?
If you characterize the deaths of these patients as murder, even though the CEO did not pull the trigger, who pulled the trigger?
Someone did, and it is likely the mid and lower level employees who pointed that “gun” of “non-eligibility” at those patients and “pulled the trigger that resulted in those “hundreds or thousands” of deaths.
That defense (that they were just following orders) is called The Nuremberg Defense”, and has been morally, intellectually, and legally rejected in every civilized country’s legal system around the world.
LT Calley was just “Following Orders” in Vietnam when he murdered up to 504 non-combatants in the My Lai massacre.
I suggest you rethink your position.
Because if you hold that position that the CEO got what was coming to him, and that only he is responsible, you are no conservative, and you have no business degrading this website with your presence. People on this site are not trying to shut you up because we believe more (and better) speech is the solution to bad or inconsistent speech.
I didn’t say they’re worthy of execution. I said it’s no surprise this is going on. The fact of the matter is CEOs are out of control, have been for a long time. And should freaking know better. We know they all read Das Kapital in college, so they should know what kind of behavior causes the revolution, and who will be first against the wall.
Really you should take it from the other direction. The CEOs should all be asking themselves “if I get assassinated tomorrow with this action be on the list of reasons why people think it was justified?” And if the answer is yes DON’T DO IT.
Thank you for your input. I’m not sitting at a keyboard, so I can’t deliver the same effort in a response.
But yes. Yes, what you’re saying is accurate.
“I was following orders” is the defense, in a nutshell.
I welcome further conversation if you would like. I am a reasonable human. I can explain how i came to this end.