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To: kiryandil

Exactly
Ukes intended to join NATO n had NATO blessings to request joining.
NATO via Ukes wanted to put missiles on Putin’s front porch.
Direct correlation to JFK risking WW3 when USSR tried putting missiles on US front porch


12 posted on 08/16/2025 8:18:44 AM PDT by fastrock
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To: fastrock

“”””Direct correlation to JFK risking WW3 when USSR tried putting missiles on US front porch””””

The Communist USSR was trying to conquer the world, NATO and the United States and the rest of the free world were trying not to be conquered.


34 posted on 08/16/2025 9:31:41 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: fastrock

In ‘62 the USSR had maybe 20 missiles that could threaten the US. The Cuban missiles sere a way of equalizing threats as US had Thor and Jupiter missiles in Turkey. Equating that situation with today is just wrong. Besides US only France and UK have nukes and both have missiles that can reach targets anywhere in Russia that have any importance and if NATO wanted to threaten Russia with nuke missiles Poland and the Baltics would provide a very adequate basing.


35 posted on 08/16/2025 9:32:29 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: fastrock

“NATO via Ukes wanted to put missiles on Putin’s front porch.”

Your assertion is contradicted by two basic facts.

First, Estonia and Latvia are already NATO members. Each of them has a land border with Russia. They’re right on top of St. Petersburg and about as far from Moscow as Ukraine is. So NATO could put missiles there right now if it wanted to.

Second, Ukraine has been independent for decades. If the plan was for Ukraine to join NATO and host nuclear missiles, that could have been done long before Putin’s invasion in 2022.

The Russian propaganda line about a supposed threat is a familiar lie from dictators wanting to launch aggressive war to seize territory. “Many German farmhouses in the Polish Corridor are in flames,” said the Nazis, before invading Poland. Perpetrators of that war were hanged at Nuremberg.

Putin is also a war criminal. In a just world, he too would be executed.


50 posted on 08/16/2025 11:08:22 AM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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