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Vance Declares the US will NOT Fund Ukraine — Directly
Armstrong Economics ^ | 13 Aug 25 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 08/12/2025 3:03:55 AM PDT by delta7

In a drastic reversal of Biden-era policies, the Trump Administration has declared that it will no longer fund the Ukrainian war–directly. However, America is still keen on profiting from the war through the vast military-industrial complex, as Vice President J.D. Vance alluded to in a recent interview. The war will NOT be profitable for America or anyone else in the end, but for now, they are seeking opportunities.

Trump-Vance campaigned on a promise to end the Russia-Ukraine conflict. They assured the American public that the war in Europe would not be America’s responsibility. Ending direct aid to Ukraine was merely a first step.

“What we said to the Europeans is simply, first of all, this is in your neck of the woods. This is in your back door,” Vance told reporters. “You guys have got to step up and take a bigger role in this thing. And if you care so much about this conflict, you should be willing to play a more direct and a more substantial way in funding this war yourself, I think the president and I certainly think that America, we’re done with the funding of the Ukraine war business.”

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Trump had the same line of thinking ahead of the conflict when he urged NATO members to increase their spending during his first term. The new administration was firm on ending funding to Ukraine, but recently pivoted when Europe declared it would no longer purchase American-manufactured military equipment.

Trump began speaking harshly against Russia and alluded to a new willingness to support Ukraine. Rutte and all the neocons cheered, eagerly signing deals to arm Ukraine through America’s strong military manufacturing power.

The ink on the contracts is still drying. Europe has already promised to provide Ukraine with American-manufactured weapons. Many of the neocons were reluctant to purchase from America as they did not believe Trump’s momentary rouse that he fully supported Zelensky. And now, the Trump-Vance team has adjusted their position to say that they will not fully support Ukraine or the neocons.

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“Americans, I think, are sick of continuing to send their money, their tax dollars, to this particular conflict. But if the Europeans want to step up and actually buy the weapons from American producers, we’re OK with that. But we’re not going to fund it ourselves anymore,” Vance told reporters at Fox News.

The world is awaiting the Trump-Putin meeting on Friday. Trump suggested that a peace deal could include “some swapping of territories,” as that is the only strategy available to end the war. Merz, Macron, Starmer, Meloni, and others issued a joint statement in response, declaring that “the path to peace in Ukraine cannot be decided without Ukraine”. They insist that any deal must include security guarantees that let Ukraine defend its “sovereignty and territorial integrity.” Zelensky also declared that “Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier.”

Putin expressed his terms for peace long ago. The US will profit from the war while remaining neutral. Russia is expected to permit the US to export weapons to its enemies, entirely contradictory to US policy, as the US is quick to sanction anyone who even conducts non-military related trade with nations it dislikes. Everyone knows that Friday will not bring about true peace since Ukraine and Europe have become the aggressors whose only drive is a fight to the death.


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KEYWORDS: gaytorfloss; proxywar; ukraine; war; welfarewar
Long past due. If the EU wants to fight Russia, so be it. Fools they are, suicide comes to mind…..Vance needs to forward them the telephone number to the suicide crisis center.
1 posted on 08/12/2025 3:03:55 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Vance might just be a great successor.


2 posted on 08/12/2025 3:41:39 AM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: The Duke

“Vance might just be a great successor.”

So far, he’s my first choice. After Pence, though, I’m always waiting for the other shoe to drop. Although, the two men seem to be completely opposite from each other.


3 posted on 08/12/2025 3:46:31 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: delta7

“suicide crisis center” ???

Martin Armstrong lost $700 million with his computer Socrates.

He now tries to sell his losing Socrates as a $150 monthly subscription.

Who wants it?


4 posted on 08/12/2025 3:46:47 AM PDT by CandyFloss
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To: The Duke

Not Drastic, Sensible


5 posted on 08/12/2025 4:03:53 AM PDT by wetgundog
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To: delta7

IBTG

IBTS

IATGSP


6 posted on 08/12/2025 4:15:45 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: CandyFloss

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7 posted on 08/12/2025 4:24:44 AM PDT by delta7
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To: CandyFloss

Here’s what you get, for all incomes. The largest financial institutions go the Enterprise level, but for people like you ( and me), the Basic is very affordable.

Now, I hope I answered your initial post….back on topic please….still waiting for your twin Tx Gator to arrive and spout.


8 posted on 08/12/2025 4:31:25 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

https://www.socratesplatform.com/membership-plans?_gl=1*i1ooyp*_gcl_au*MTAyNzE1NDUxMy4xNzU0OTk4MDQ2

Very affordable, has served me well for decades.


9 posted on 08/12/2025 4:32:26 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
“Americans, I think, are sick of continuing to send their money, their tax dollars, to this particular conflict.

This American is.

This war never should have happened.

This is just another war manufactured by the CIA for fun and profit.

This is a war kept going to profit the Biden/Clinton Crime Family.

10 posted on 08/12/2025 4:36:06 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: CandyFloss

Sure n00b

“CandyFloss Since Jun 21, 2025”


11 posted on 08/12/2025 5:11:18 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ LIFE )
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To: delta7

I’ll believe it when I see it. The only way I can understand Trump not being true to his clear campaign promise is that he benefits from this due to some deals with swamp creatures.


12 posted on 08/12/2025 5:53:28 AM PDT by raffitaffy
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To: CandyFloss

Discrediting the messenger does not discredit the message content. If you are not happy with the position J.D. Vance is taking then just say so.


13 posted on 08/12/2025 6:04:10 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: delta7

“still waiting for your twin Tx Gator to arrive and spout.”

It is starting to get immature. We really do not need a mommy to protect us from Armstrong.


14 posted on 08/12/2025 6:09:35 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: Openurmind

I really think Martin Armstrong and Delta 7 are the same person.


15 posted on 08/12/2025 8:10:02 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: delta7

Need to cut off all money now and tell them to go see the EU.


16 posted on 08/12/2025 8:13:15 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: All

Vance is NOT SWAMP. Total of 2 years in Washington when selected for VP. Trump’s very best choice to date, strictly because NOT SWAMP.

As for all this talk of you can’t get peace without Ukraine and you can’t give up Ukraine’s land without Ukraine involvement . . . .

IS WRONG. That is EXACTLY what was done in Korea. The armistice was signed by N. Korea, China, and the UN command (mostly the US and a few hangers on). S. KOREA REFUSED TO SIGN. They said they would not allow a border to be defined by combat.

Well, no one cared what they allowed. And that border has held up for 70 years.

Zelensky doesn’t have any say in this matter. There is powerful precedent.

And make no mistake here, if S. Korea were to launch an attack across the DMZ, or start shelling across the border or send drones across, they may get bombed — BY THE US, for violating the US signature.

Ditto thoughts of Ukraine guerilla warfare. That can get shut down quickly — by the US.


17 posted on 08/12/2025 8:17:27 AM PDT by Owen
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To: amnestynone

Doesn’t matter. The message is not his, it is Vance’s. The source has absolutely nothing to do with it at all...


18 posted on 08/12/2025 8:23:27 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: delta7
"you might want to see what Socrates says"

Please call me Marty.

I run the ArmstrongEconomics scam site.

The worth of my Socrates advice can be measured by my three bankruptcies and losing over $700,000,000 of my clients' funds in bad trades.

That failed ponzi scheme got me eleven years in the federal pen.

signed, Martin Armstrong

19 posted on 08/12/2025 8:29:59 AM PDT by TexasGator (11The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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