[know.your.why]

Can anyone please help me get to the bottom of the notion that illegal immigrants were allowed to flood into the US by the previous administration to act a mules to interfere with election results? TY.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/aug/07/john-blust/the-us-census-counts-noncitizens-did-that-give-dem/

[central_va]

You are there, it’s true .

[Sarah Barracuda]

Actually its NOT 24 seats, more like 40 seats..and that is why Dems will do ANYTHING to protect illegals..ALL illegals, doesn’t matter if they are criminal aliens or not, they want them ALL to stay, in order to keep congressional seats. They figured out the game, import as many useful idiot illegals as possible, throw them some Govt freebies, spread em around to different districts, and gain house seats, that simple

[central_va]

Each district has around 900,000 citizens. Dividing 25 million illegals by 900k gives you around 28 reps that shouldn’t be there.

[rlmorel]

It is absolutely true. It is infuriating to me to hear those douchebags refer to the “Border Crisis” as if it were a “crisis”.

It was an illegal, seditious, planned and orchestrated invasion of this country by the actions of the Democrat Party.

There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

The proof is that within weeks of taking office, President Donald Trump and his Administration cut off the flow of illegals flooding into this country from all over the world.

The Democrats could have done the exact same things (in other words, enforce the laws on the books and actively discourage illegal immigration) but they did none of those things...because they wanted it.

[webheart]

In the short term it is not the ballots filled in by illegal aliens being counted as votes, it is the apportionment of the population of illegal aliens who are represented in congress for being people living in a specific area. The votes will come later but at first if you get 20 million people that you can count you can create congressional representation for them. You don’t need them to vote. There are other ways of making sure that the people who are eligible to vote end up voting for Democrats. That’s what gerrymandering is for. Then you get ballot harvesting, anonymous voting by mail, loose election deadlines, and endless recounts. There are more ways even than those. Multiply recounting some ballots while spoiling other ballots, provisional ballots,

[ansel12]

“”””between 2019 and 2023. Cato said red states gained an estimated 1.2 million noncitizens while blue states gained about 72,000””””

The debunking says red states and blue states both gain seats from counting illegals, but what kind of seats, are they democrat seats in blue states and gop in red? No.

Do the illegals help give democrats more districts and help lock up and make those districts impenetrable in the future, regardless of what state? Yes.

[rlmorel]

know.your.why, I will not assume you are being obtuse or a troll, but using a source like Politifact is going to make people think you are either obtuse or a troll whether you are or are not. I think your responses aren't helping your cause, either.

Additionally, you appear to be conflating election fraud with apportionment, and those are two different components that the Democrat Party has used illegal immigration to swing each of them in their favor.

The first component is election fraud. And their efforts to bring this many people illegally in to assist in giving them victory in the 2022 mid-terms and the 2024 Presidential election is the end goal. You need to keep in mind that the number of illicit, manufactured votes to swing an election is vanishingly small in comparison to the total number of votes. I have heard it is in the range of a few hundred thousand votes or less. They simply need to be manufactured and strategically placed.

The second component is representation in Congress which is determined by the census. It is apparently a zero-sum game, that is, there is a set number of seats, 435, each state gets a minimum of one representative. This explanation from the Census site describes further how the apportionment is calculated:

I did not wish to soil my browser by going to that website, but in the interest of fairness I did, and one of the key points is the number of illegals in this country. The author goes with the lowest number of 11 million, but that is clearly a leftist number. I have always thought it was closer to 20 million, though some say it is a minimum of 25 million. Right off the bat, that 11 million number is absurdly low, not worth consideration.

[Blood of Tyrants]

It depends on where the illegal aliens are. AFAIK the census counts the population and divides that by 435. I’m not sure how the remainders are apportioned. RI and MT both have approx 1.05 million but RI gets two reps and MT only gets one. If you take the raw numbers of 747,000 people per rep times 27, you get 20 million illegals. That’s a good guess but probably low by several million. Plus they aren’t all grouped in one place. So some states, like CA, TX, FL, NY, and other states with more illegals would lose sets. But then the total number of people would drop as well as the number of people per rep.

[californian by choice]

I bet not