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1 posted on 08/08/2025 7:05:00 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Insurance companies are a real problem with this.


2 posted on 08/08/2025 7:08:44 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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I had a minor surgery on my face to remove a cancer.

I was approved, medicare/BCBS, for cosmetic surgery.

The surgeon was approved but her facility was not.

She did the surgery at the hospital in the OR.


3 posted on 08/08/2025 7:11:18 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp F,Friday Gnat)
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Only one way to fix this stuff.


6 posted on 08/08/2025 7:20:24 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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"she was midway through performing a breast reconstruction surgery when a call from a representative from UnitedHealthcare came into the operating room"

ANYONE who enters an operating room without authorization should be kicked out IMMEDIATELY.

11 posted on 08/08/2025 7:54:33 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Were it not for Trump, woke would have been more devastating than all the horrors, wars and plagues.)
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I would never interrupt a surgery for a phone call. I would say I assumed it was a prank or a mistake.


13 posted on 08/08/2025 8:16:37 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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This is an example of why many doctors are adopting concierge care for their practice. It is also a major reason you no longer see doctors in solo practice but as part of a group under the control of the hospital.


14 posted on 08/08/2025 8:17:38 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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“Gaffney, who did not speak specifically about Potter’s case but the industry in general, said that part of health insurers’ jobs is to prevent unnecessary care as a way to counter the exorbitant cost of health care in the U.S., from pricey drugs to expensive hospital stays.”

Wrong the health insurers’ job is to make sure it can show a profit to its investors. It is a business. To them unnecessary care is not care that is not medically warranted but care that threatens their bottom line. If it was about protecting the patient there would be no need for contracts spelling out just what they will or won’t allow. You would pay your premium and deductible and they would cover percentage of the bill agreed upon.


15 posted on 08/08/2025 8:21:48 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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I sense a lack of business acumen here: taking out a $3.5 million loan to get her practice started?


19 posted on 08/08/2025 8:30:58 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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I once had an insurance company send me a letter signed by their medical Director saying they were denying coverage for my legend blood pressure medication because I had not tried other cheaper drugs in the same class. I was very tempted to bring a malpractice claim against the medical director since he was making a diagnosis and prescribing medication without ever seeing me as a patient.


20 posted on 08/08/2025 8:35:06 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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Obama giggles on the toilet ,in the shower, when he gets up, as he eats breakfast, when he plays golf, the guy is giddy with delight over how “ Healthcare for everyone” has become a fiscal nightmare for the average white American. Giggidy giggidy, giggidy!! Giggles


21 posted on 08/08/2025 8:37:52 AM PDT by Ikeon (Help a man today, and tomorrow he will get into trouble on purpose, because youll help him.)
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“That call was just this wake-up call. If they can ring me in the operating room, not for something urgent, just for that, and to ask me to justify her staying overnight … we have lost our way.”

She takes a call while operating? She cannot be reached if she doesn’t want to be reached. I can’t imagine my surgeon taking a call.

There is mention of her social media posts. Some have a good picture here. A social media darling who will take a call on her phone during surgery whining about not having her way.

If she was any good she could have a practice not reliant on insurance. The best plastic surgeons are usually out of network if they are in any network at all.


23 posted on 08/08/2025 8:50:05 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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“Potter said she left hospital work and opened her own clinic in April 2024 after realizing she could provide the same services at a lower cost to both patients and insurance companies — while earning more herself.”

“She said she took out $3.5 million in personal loans to open the clinic”

“then you have to approach insurance companies.”

She did things in the wrong order.


27 posted on 08/08/2025 9:06:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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There is the in-network/out-of-network issue.

By channeling insured to a subset of providers, the insurer can get better pricing.

However, there are limits to that, hospitals that provide emergency service are better able to insist on being in-network providers even if their charges are higher as some insureds are going to need hospital emergency service.

What I would do is to break most hospitals into two operations as separate as possible. The breakups might start at the largest operations and work downward.

An ambulance might turn right or left depending on your insurance coverage.

The EMTALA mandate should be cut back. Only one visit in any 12-month period per facility, with a $200 per visit limit waiver. The EMTALA hospital should be able to collect as with student loans. EMTALA providers who are not hospitals should be able to collect to the scope of the IRS, but second to the IRS.

As for out-of-network, the insurer should have to pay what it pays to its lowest cost provider for the item, less 10% once the insured pays the policy co-pay/co-insurance, with the balance being the patient responsibility.


30 posted on 08/08/2025 9:30:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Insurance companies are evil.


33 posted on 08/08/2025 10:10:41 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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ongoing tension between insurers and health care providers.

My brother-in-law, who is now deceased, was an Oncologist in a specialty group here in S.E. Michigan.

He was responsible for purchasing all the chemo therapy drugs he used in his practice. In his last couple of years, he had to drop out of the private practice and become a staff oncologist for the hospital group they worked out of.

The reason he had to drop out was because medicare and medicaid, which many of his patients were insured with, would not reimburse him for the total costs to him for the therapy drugs he had to administer.

Ironically enough, the same drugs could have been purchased thru a Canadian distributor at a fraction of the cost........

43 posted on 08/08/2025 11:47:20 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Why can't you tickle yourself?)
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as for not allowing her clinic to become in-network has to do with her credentialing and billing practices i would guess


51 posted on 08/08/2025 4:17:40 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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Granted United is the worst of the worst but this is the kind of BS which will guarantee single payer.


53 posted on 08/08/2025 4:25:58 PM PDT by moehoward (.)
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An “open doors” audit of all of Congress, of their possible holdings in these companies would be interesting. ✖️👀


63 posted on 08/08/2025 10:26:55 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by 🙏 the prophesies set before you." ) I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite warriors. 10.5.6.5 These Days)
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