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To: kiryandil; McGruff; marcusmaximus; gleeaikin; PIF
kiryandil: "He's a joke.
Carefully constructed Walls O' Text with joke data from Wikipedia."

The only real jokes here are anything that originates with the Russian government.

Wikipedia simply compiles data from multiple sources, including the US, UK, UN, EU, BBC, Ukraine & others.
They all more-or-less agree and the only serious outliers are numbers originating with Russian government propaganda.
But what sane person would ever believe those?

kiryandil: "I Wonder why the Russians had 6,000 dead Ukie bodies from Kursk?"

Only in the fantasies of Russian propaganda are there 6,000 Ukrainian bodies from Kursk.
In reality:

  1. In June, at Istanbul, Russian & Ukrainian negotiators agreed to a one-to-one exchange, returning up to 6,000 bodies each of the other's fallen soldiers.

  2. As a result of the agreement, Russia turned over about 4,800 unidentified bodies to Ukrainian authorities.

  3. Ukrainians processing the bodies have so far identified only 15% as Ukrainian soldiers.
    The balance are Russian soldiers' bodies and/or unidentifiable.

  4. Based on the numbers of Ukrainian soldiers' bodies identified so far, Ukrainians have returned a few dozen identified Russian soldier bodies to Russia.

  5. There is no firm identification on any of the bodies returned by Russians to Ukraine, much less on when & where they died.
    If the 15% being valid Ukrainian soldiers holds, then it suggests fewer than 1,000 in total -- of the alleged 6,000 -- will be Ukrainians killed in battle at some time between February 2022 and July 2025.
kiryandil: "Why are the Ukies running out of soldiers?"

They're not, all reports to the contrary notwithstanding.
In fact, Ukraine's armed forces, active and reserves, total nearly 2 million men (~5% women).
Of those, around 300,000 serve on the frontlines against Russia.
So Ukraine's real issue is not "finding enough men" -- they've already got plenty.
Ukraine's real issue is devising systems for when, how & where to train & rotate its troops in & out the front lines.

Ideally, each of Ukraine's ~2 million men should rotate through the front lines as needed, even given a long list of reasons making that difficult.
Point is: Ukraine is not "running out of men", though it does need to manage its available troops most effectively.

22 posted on 08/11/2025 5:04:35 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK; McGruff; Kazan
Wikipedia simply compiles data from multiple sources

Thanks for your joke post, JoeK.

23 posted on 08/11/2025 7:06:48 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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