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To: Red Badger

Broken altimeter — and a pilot with vertigo.

DEI all over the place.


3 posted on 08/05/2025 9:10:49 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The list of things I no longer care about is long. And it's getting longer.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

A female pilot who had spent an inordinate amount of time in the White House, who had a paucity of flight hours to be flying in such a dangerous and highly constrained corridor.


4 posted on 08/05/2025 9:13:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There have been issues involving that airspace for decades.

Yet those problems have never been addressed.

Could it be because a lot of pols and bureaucrats like to travel by helicopter and don’t want anything done because it would inconvenience them...?


5 posted on 08/05/2025 9:13:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Additional thoughts —

In Malcolm Gladwell’s book “Outliers” he tells the story of a jetliner that crashed into a mountain. IIRC it was a Korean flight crew. The co-pilot pointed out the low altitude and the danger. The senior pilot didn’t want to hear it. As Gladwell explains, Korea is a hierarchical society. Co-pilots don’t tell pilots what to do. So the co-pilot shut up and they crashed into a mountain. This (thank goodness) led to a cultural change in some countries at least in terms of pilot training (ex. “Listen to your crew”)

DEI has made the US one of those hierarchical societies. Men don’t correct women. Whites don’t correct blacks. Normal people don’t correct homosexuals. There is a hierarchical order, and you need to know your place before you speak to your betters.

The flight instructor in the helicopter should have taken the controls from the DEI woman. But he knew his place and just let her crash two planes.


7 posted on 08/05/2025 9:17:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The list of things I no longer care about is long. And it's getting longer.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

And night vision goggles.

Completely preventable.


14 posted on 08/05/2025 9:29:06 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Once again, DEI=DIE.


16 posted on 08/05/2025 9:30:58 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement! ThereonMaube)
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To: ClearCase_guy
No, not a broken altimeter, but rather a systemic problem with the barometric pressure altimeters in the Blackhawk.

The Sikorsky Blackhawkk UH-60L version has three altimeters: barometric pressure, radio (radar), and GPS. They did a test of three helos from the Army unit simultaneously flying in formation and the three barometric pressure altimeters did not agree on altitude, but there WAS good agreement on all three radio altimeters. The barometric altimeters all read 80-100 feet BELOW the radio altimeter. The helo was flying at 325 feet whereas the permissible helo ceiling on that route is 200 feet.

The Sikorsky Blackhawkk UH-60M version (the "Mike" version) has improved altimeters. Scott Rosengren of U.S. Army said he would urge that all "Lima" (i.e., L version) be taken out of service and replaced with "Mike" version.

Jeff Ostroff breaks it all down in his excellent video: DC Plane Crash NTSB UPDATE: Shocking New Details, Photos, Video AA 5342

17 posted on 08/05/2025 9:34:49 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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