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1 posted on 08/01/2025 7:09:15 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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“Disappointments stem from excessive expectations,” Putin said on Friday during a press briefing in Valaam.

Well, he's not wrong about that.

2 posted on 08/01/2025 7:12:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Although my eyes were open, they might just as well be closed.")
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"President Trump will get his Easter ceasefire. Bet on it."
31 posted on 3/21/2025, 1:41:36 PM by marcusmaximus
3 posted on 08/01/2025 7:14:08 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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My suggested negotiating framework:

Step 1, Terms Written Up: Days 1-14

The Russians should be asked to type up a complete long-term peace proposal.

The Ukrainians should be asked to type up a complete long-term peace proposal.

Step 2, Disagreements Highlighted: Days 15-21

Each side should then be asked to state which provisions are not acceptable in writing, and why, and asked to write up alternative provisions.

Step 3, Attempted Resolution: Day 22-35

Attempts should then be made to piece together a deal, both by the parties involved, and by a United Nations committee (of say five people from say Mexico, Argentina, South Africa, Brazil, Switzerland), the Vatican, the US, Hungary, Turkey and maybe even Mexico.

Step 4, Proposal Selection: two days

There have been X peace proposals pieced together, please rank them, Ukraine and Russia.

The one with the highest combined score will then become the basis for negotiation.

Step 5, Revision Process: five days

Each side should again be asked to say which provisions are not acceptable and asked to come up with alternative terms, and any additional terms they feel are needed.

Step 6, Further Resolution Attempts: seven days

Further attempts should then be made to piece together a deal, both by the parties involved, and again by a United Nations committee of say five people from say Mexico, Argentina, South Africa, Brazil, Switzerland.

Steps 4, 5, 6 are repeated if needed until a deal is agreed to.

NOTE: With my framework, the parties at war write almost all the wording unilaterally in about two weeks. Third parties then pitch in to try to patch together rational deals. Once that is done, the warring parties are asked to negotiate over remaining differences.


8 posted on 08/01/2025 7:20:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Putin is the only adult in the room. He’s seen American leaders come and go.


16 posted on 08/01/2025 7:44:20 AM PDT by McGruff
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Russia expects Ukraine to capitulate.

Ukraine expects to be left independent with some security guarantees.

Trump expects a ceasefire, but without an actual deal the elements of which acceptable to both parties, it's hard to see why either side would agree.

17 posted on 08/01/2025 7:44:22 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Putin talks shiite..


19 posted on 08/01/2025 7:45:31 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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Just give Trump another 24 hours and he’ll show that Putin a thing or two!


21 posted on 08/01/2025 7:46:59 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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I think once Putin takes the donbas and the four provinces he wants, he starts putting up defensive positions and basically shuts the war down himself.


33 posted on 08/01/2025 8:30:54 AM PDT by struggle
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Well Pootie...you have until Aug.8 until sanctions...so chew on that.


35 posted on 08/01/2025 8:56:21 AM PDT by wardamneagle
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