Excessive expectations cause Trump's "disappointment" on war with Ukraine, Putin says

TRT Global ^ | 8/1/2025 | Staff

[marcusmaximus]

Russian President Vladimir Putin has responded to US President Donald Trump’s remarks expressing “disappointment” over stalled progress on Ukraine, calling for realistic expectations and a return to diplomacy.

“Disappointments stem from excessive expectations,” Putin said on Friday during a press briefing in Valaam. “Approaching problem-solving peacefully requires thorough discussions, either publicly or discreetly through negotiations.”

[Karl Spooner]

Just give Trump another 24 hours and he’ll show that Putin a thing or two!

[Alberta's Child]

Can you post the sources of those quotes?

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Russia expects Ukraine to capitulate. Ukraine expects to be left independent with some security guarantees. Trump expects a ceasefire, but without an actual deal the elements of which acceptable to both parties, it's hard to see why either side would agree."

Compliments on a cogent summary of the moment. Most apt observation -- "...it's hard to see why either side would agree."

[Karl Spooner]

I know the first one was General Milley!, which we told him about a million times.

[Alberta's Child]

I think you have it all wrong. Every single person I know who is an ardent Trump supporter doesn’t give a flaming crap about the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and considers it (at best) nothing more than a waste of Trump’s time.

[FreeReign]

Just give Trump another 24 hours and he’ll show that Putin a thing or two!

Actually, Trump said the opposite of that several days ago.

I think Trump was giving Putin way too much credit to start. Now he knows what Putin is.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

Source for Marcusminimumus' graphic: Can you post the sources of those quotes?

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[Karl Spooner]

He says a lot of the opposite everyday.

[nathanbedford]

Russia-Ukraine conflict, ... (at best) nothing more than a waste of Trump’s time.

A war that: 1) has one European nation invading another, 2) that Donald Trump provided weapons to the invaded nation to deter that invasion, 3) that on resuming office second time, Trump provided weapons and other supplies on behalf of Ukraine and imposed sanctions on Russia and Russia's business partners, 4) in which Trump involved himself as negotiator, unilaterally on behalf of Ukraine; 5) in which Trump sought to shape the conditions that Ukraine must accept and rebuked and humiliated its President when a guest in the White House when he declined, 6) a war in which Trump personally negotiated a minerals deal with Ukraine, 7) a war in which Trump became disillusioned with Putin, 8) a war in which Trump resumed providing arms to Ukraine, 9) a war in which Trump negotiated deals with NATO partners to pay for those arms applied to Ukraine, 10) a war which occasion Trump to demand NATO allies increase their defense allocations to 5%, 11) a war in which Trump has served Putin with an ultimatum, 12) a war in which Trump has threatened additional sanctions on Russia.

It would seem that the conflict has wasted a considerable amount of Trump's time, not entirely to our advantage or profit.

[FreeReign]

No he doesn't.

You likely Putin?

[FreeReign]

It would seem that the conflict has wasted a considerable amount of Trump's time, not entirely to our advantage or profit.

Trump tried. Both sides resisted.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "It would seem that the conflict has wasted a considerable amount of Trump's time, not entirely to our advantage or profit."

A second cogent response on a somewhat silly thread. Kudos.

After the higlighted above, another question then is "to whose advantage and profit."

The question is framed with an already out-of-date number:

$ 37,177,033,893,643 and rising rapidly

[struggle]

I think once Putin takes the donbas and the four provinces he wants, he starts putting up defensive positions and basically shuts the war down himself.

[pierrem15]

This is the main weakness: even if both parties agree to a ceasefire, without a workable agreement it's unlikely to hold and both parties will violate it almost immediately to seek advantage. It would be another Minsk farce.

I think a workable agreement looks like this: Russia gets Luhansk (almost all of which it occupies), most if not all of Donetsk and recognition of Crimea with graduated lifting of sanctions while Ukraine gets the occupied parts of Zaporizhia and Kherson back and a real alliance of European powers (France, Britain, Germany, Scandinavia, Poland, and Romania) but no NATO in the immediate future but some guarantee of EU membership.

This would give Putin a "golden path" to declare "victory" and Ukraine some stability and hope for the future.

[wardamneagle]

Well Pootie...you have until Aug.8 until sanctions...so chew on that.

[pierrem15]

I think once Putin takes the donbas and the four provinces he wants,

At the current rate of Russian advance that would in the 2030's.

If the war continues, by next January it will have lasted longer than the Great Patriotic War. You think no one in Russia will notice?

[marcusmaximus]

[struggle]

>At the current rate of Russian advance that would in the 2030’s.

At first I’d agree, but the process is getting a lot faster now.

[pierrem15]

You're buying the Russian kamikaze flag planting as evidence of advance. Local commanders are under intense pressure to show "progress" so they drop a flag by drone or have some idiots run forward with motorcycles to plant a flag for a photo op before being hit by Ukrainian drones.

The Ukrainians have taken back some areas in Sumy, nibbled back some territory in Luhansk and Zaporizhia. The still hold a good chunk of Chasiv Yar, Russian claims to the contrary.

It's August 1 and Russia's summer offensive has hardly moved. The Ukrainians now let small units advance after hammering the assault with drones and artillery, whack the survivors with drones and only then send infantry to clear out the few that are left. This minimizes their losses, maximizes Russia's and only gives ground very slowly. Putin is trying to force capitulation by destroying Ukrainian cities, but do the math on the amount of high explosive the Shaheds are delivering vs. a B17. And our B17s weren't very effective until the last months of the war. The fact that Putin has 2000 extra drones does not give him 2000 extra targets of military value, especially when the Ukrainians have had a couple of years to adapt.

[struggle]

The Russians just walked into the center of Pokrovsk and took it over.