Posted on 07/30/2025 5:39:13 AM PDT by MtnClimber
What led Obama to allegedly organize a takedown of the Trump presidency?
Back in 2016, I remember reading an analysis that President Obama's two terms had left the Democrats in bad shape. In other words, he started in 2009 with huge majorities and left town with the GOP in charge of the U.S. Senate and House. It was probably not what Obama planned, but it happened that way.
So the question is: What led Obama to allegedly organize a takedown of the Trump presidency? Was he hurt or was his ego crushed? I like this analysis from Martin Gurri:
He understood, as a realist, that he had been the cause of which Trump was the effect.
His vanity and self-image, I’m guessing, must have suffered a tremendous shock.
Trump was a fluke, a hoax, an impossibility. He had to be exposed as both a monstrous aberration and a depraved departure from his predecessor’s enlightened ways.
Obama wanted his mojo back.
With the collusion scandal, he got it. On the day he left office, he was more popular with the public than he ever had been, while Trump’s popularity plummeted.
Was the elaborate charade worth it? Maybe so -- only the former president is privy to his own internal states.
But on July 23, Gabbard referred his case to the Department of Justice for potential criminal investigation.
Thank you, Martin, for your explanation. I thought about this for years. In other words, Obama's feelings were hurt because 2016 was a repudiation of his presidency. He probably thought that he'd do a Reagan '88 or pass the White House to someone of his own party. Reagan did it and Obama couldn't. It had to be an ego crusher to say the least. After all, didn’t they tell us that he walked
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I have been looking for info about “Mike Rogers” for a while.I remember HE was the only one who looked honest and really TROUBLED by what he saw.
Then...NOTHING about Mike Rogers!!
HE IS THE BIGGEST HERO IN ALL THIS CORRUPTION.
AND...where is he now??
Trump’s three victories (3) made half the country, and many on this board, into blithering idiots.
BINGO! Weird thing is that Mike Rogers QUIT right after that, iirc.
:)
It shattered their illusion of the R vs D Con.
The Swamp R team is as evil as their partners in Swamp Crime. And it took Trump to really expose it.
That bruises egos when the only one standing in the R and D Swamp’s way is a loud mouth NYer real estate mogul turned tv media star, who is taking all the flak for $0.
But we can thank the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama era for being so Swampy, Trump decided to run.
Rogers was the Director of the NSA at the time. He stayed in that role before retiring in 2018.
The Martin Gurri list cited in the article is simplistic — Obama’s ego might have emboldened him to unleash ops to destroy Trump, but his goal was “fundamental transformation of the country”.
Obama, and all of us, know that US government policy, and to a lesser extent personnel, see-saws back and forth with each rotation of party-in-office, keeping radical change at bay. The Democrats’ Dream is to impose eight years of leftist policies, appointments, and values, then stop the rightward rebound of the pendulum under a new administration.
Trump’s first term gave them the perfect opportunity, since the Republican Party wanted him to fail, his pool for appointees was thin on experience, and Trump himself did not understand the level of perfidy he was up against. Four years of destructive radicalism under the Biden puppeteers was the result. We are lucky to have survived.
Benedict Obama’s fee-fees got hurt.
Barack Obama was simply a tool in the long game to install a one party socialist/communist government in the United States.
Looking back he is one in a long line of Democrat progressive leaders who ran for POTUS beginning with Woodrow Wilson. Wilson disdained the masses, the concept of individual liberty, and the philosophy of limited government. Follow the chain - Wilson, Cox, Smith, Roosevelt, Stevenson, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, B Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, H. Clinton, Biden, Harris. Each either more left wing than the previous or similar to the predecessor. Each of these candidates, who attained the office of president pushed policies further to the left, expanded the size and mission of government, increased regulation of private sector businesses, and increasingly weaponized the judicial system against political opponents and citizens.
The Democrat party is an instrument in a long term plan to destroy the America of the founding where government’s primary job is to protect the rights and freedom of the individual citizen. The goal is to replace it with a governing structure where the people are subservient to government. Rights and privileges are granted to citizens based on their behavior and status within the ruling hierarchy. Listen to their voices, they are not reluctant to share their core belief that the elites know what is better for the people than the people themselves.
Since the Woodrow Wilson years the left has captured most American institutions — organized religion, education, journalism/media, corporate boardrooms, the financial system, the judiciary and law enforcement, large urban area governments, medical care, and non-profit organizations. Even the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts.
Over the last hundred years the central government has taken over many of the functions of state and local government. In addition the federal government has made state and local governments dependent on federal dollars, which results in state and local politicians doing the bidding of the central government. Plus the regulatory bureaucracy has steadily infringed on the independence and freedom of individual citizens and small businesses. Slowly but surely the supremacy of the federal government over every aspect of American life has been institutionalized.
Meanwhile the opposition Republican politicians have played the short and easy game of self interest. They have acquiesced to the infringement on the freedom of the individual in return for favors which have enriched them as individuals and served the interests of their wealthy donors. In reality, the establishment Republicans have traded the freedom of the citizens for wealthy and the perceived personal security of status and friendships with the powerful.
Obama, like the rest of the Democrat presidents, served the bigger plan and the hidden puppeteers who controlled him. The weaponization of the intelligence community and judiciary was his primary achievement in the long term march to an America where the interests of the “community”, as defined and imposed by the ruling elite, are superior to the freedom of the individual. Government will define the individual’s role in the community as well as the individual’s status in society.
It isn’t hard to see the next step in the long term progressive movement. At some point, a Democrat President with a Democrat majority Congress will announce the Constitution of the founders is outdated and irrelevant in the 21st Century. Plus it is immoral because it was written by slaveholders. A commission will be established, staffed with far left academics and senior politicians, to write a new Constitution. That Constitution will be approved by Congress. They may even send it to the states for approval if they have a majority of state legislatures controlled by Democrats. Once 51% of the states approve, they will announce the old Constitution is dead and the new Constitution is the law of the land. The current governing institutions will be replaced by a dictatorship of a one party state.
While this death blow to liberty is occurring most conservative citizens will be surprised at the large number of Republicans who publicly support this orchestrated effort. They are opportunists who have flourished in politics by determining where the wind is going and acquiesce in an effort to sustain their status in society and their personal fortunes. They know once the dictatorship of the one party state is formally established, those at the top will brutally eliminate any perceived disloyalty or threat.
Our founders pledged their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to establishing the American dream. Many of them delivered on that pledge. How many Republican politicians do you see who are willing to put their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor on the line to preserve the concept that the main purpose of government is to protect the rights and liberty of the individual citizen? I see less than a handful today. When the day of reckoning comes, most will gladly accept the chains of tyranny, without a fight, in a vain effort to preserve their lives and fortunes. As to sacred honor, they voluntarily gave that up years before in order to be players in the current political arena.
Obama’s distaste for Trump goes beyond hubris and a bruised ego. As he so clearly stated, Obama wanted to fundamentally transform America from a democratic republic to a single party Marxist state. Hillary in her unbridled lust for power would have readily participated in Obama’s quest. When Trump’s seemingly unlikely bid for the presidency happened with a new surge of populism, Obama engineered a plan to take down Trump or at least hamstring his presidency.
Joe Biden became the candidate in 2020 by a backroom deal because the front runner at the time, Bernie Sanders, was clearly unelectable. The 2020 election was clearly stolen with massive amounts of manufactured votes and mail in ballots. Obama knew that Biden was easily manipulated and his increasing senility made it easy for Obama to install a ruling cabal of loyalists to complete his dream of transforming the country.
The Obama vision of a new America under Biden was a disaster economically and his policies were very unpopular. Trumps phoenix like resurrection from 2020 caused the unprecedented attempt to take him down at any cost with unending lawsuits and a media smear campaign. I believe Trump’s near assassination was not just the work of some random nut, but was part of a Deep State/Obama plot to once and for all eliminate Trump. Biden’s increasingly obvious senility in full view with the disastrous debate, cause another backroom deal to make Kamala the candidate and with heterosexual in the White House Obama’s dream of a single party Marxist state could be accomplished.
Trump’s triumphant return to the presidency left the Democratic Party in shambles and Obama in the wilderness. Now Obama’s coup attempt has been made manifest and could bring about his end.
Did he organize it or just go along with it? He must have had the final say, but the plan may already have been worked out.
Obama is a puppet of Globalist enemies; he didn't act strictly out of ego, although he's basically a walking ego.
Like the Covid Plandemic, what we have witnessed in the destruction of AMerica is too damaging, complex and coordinated to be the result of carelessness and ego.
The globalists planned to take down the US from the inside. Obama was to use his 2 terms on specific tasks.
Hillary was to use her two terms on specific tasks.
Yes, The Won was not concerned with anyone other than himself, and he worked hard to impress our enemies and rise in rank among them. But the concerted, coordinated takedown of America has been the object of Globalist planning for decades.
I believe those who say that together, the elaborate planning and strategies for Obama's and Hillary's 16 years of coordinated destructive tasks would finally hand AMerica and freedom around the world to those who want to destroy most of us and enslave the rest.
Obama's 8 years To Do list:
Insert rogue operations throughout the government
Use internal (unseen) methods to take the 'good guys' out of the government (Lookin' at you, Valerie Jarrett)
Leak classified intel and military assets
Cut military funding
Take command away from generalsSell Special Access Programs (SAP) to our enemies
Snowden's exposure of Prism/Keyscore (damaging to US military and benficial to global enemies + CIA/NSATarget and weaken (IRS/MSM) conservative base
Open the borders - flood the zone for Democrat votes
Fund and install ISIS/MS13 (tools to inspire fear, target and remove 'problem' people, function as unofficial arms of the agencies)Ignore and/or deny North Korea is building nukes
Fund and supply Iran as it builds nukes
Shift the balance of the Supreme CourtThe Uranium1 deal to reduce US capacity while funding and supplying Iran and North Korea
Disable NASA to prevent space dominace and allow our enemies to take down our military satellites and secure communications world-wide; and install weapons of mass destructionWork to develop space based EMP weapons
Hillary's 8 years - To Do List
Hillary's coronation was not to be, but Obama's shadow government through the last 8+ years invested time and energy in setting her tasks in motion.
WWIII - fabricate and control a war which employs real weapons and death (make money while reducing population (Think Ukraine and/or numerous other war monger options)
Purge the last of rogue operations by patriots within the government and military
Kill the economy to starve the public into relying on the government, thereby becoming slaves (they almost got there - they were going to keep the C19 national shutdown in place until we were all 'tagged' and controlled by a Plandemic that never ended - AI to watch us 24/7)
Maintain the open borders to continue flood of democrat voters
Revise Constitution - make it a 'working document' to harden their controlBan all weapons (2nd ammendment goes away) to keep control
Install their picks for Supreme Court justices for legal wins nationwide
Remove the electoral college as popular vote can be more easily manipulated (Soros)
Further defund the militaryClose US military bases across the globe - start with Germany
Destroy opposing media (MSM, Social Media etc.) through censorship and targeting so that 'the narrative' is the only messaging~~~God is Good. That's why their 16 year plan has had many setbacks, including Mr. Setback Himself, Donald J Trump~~~
Great reply, thanks. Everyone should read it.
Thanks....I remembered wrong.
While I’m sure his ego was crushed, that was not the main motivator for his illegal actions towards Trump, nor was his ego his source of funding or support.
Hillary’s feelings were also hurt, far worse than Obama’s. He was more than happy to help her destroy Trump for beating her.
Because Obama is Obama and we still don't know who he is.
Well, the democrats were stupid enough to think that Hillary could win a national election, that right there was their first mistake.
Whoa, nice narrative.
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