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The AI explosion means millions are paying more for electricity
The Washington Post ^ | 6:00 a.m. EDT July 27, 2025 | Peter Whoriskey

Posted on 07/27/2025 12:36:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Galatians513
They are reopening Iowa’s only nuke plant (and doubling its capacity) to power 5 new data centers in Cedar Rapids.

Looks like the old-fashioned power grids and electricity supply systems are not even close to meeting the upcoming demands of High Tech.

Seems data miners looking to create bitcoins out of thin air--possible with tremendous computer power--are buying up farmland acreage and building vast server farms.

So much heat is created that these giant server farms generate their own electricity from steam turbines and sell the excess to the old-fashioned grid.

21 posted on 07/27/2025 2:13:00 PM PDT by henbane (✧ π•π”Έβ„•π•Œπ”Έβ„π• 𝟚𝟘 𝟚𝟘𝟚𝟝--𝕄𝔸𝔾𝔸 π•„π”Έπ”Ύβ„•π•€π”½π•€β„‚π•Œπ•Š ✧)
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To: Galatians513

Microsoft purchased the furloughed Three Mile Island reactor (dormant since 1979) for approximately $5 billion to provide power for its anticipated AI processing centers.

Interestingly, I read the entire article and found no indication that the reporter understood the distinction between residential and commercial power consumers. And that the costs of supplying power are carefully measured and assigned to the classes that generate those costs. It was environmentalists and leftists who constrained additions to new capacity across the US (and across the world). So, when you see capacity costs skyrocketing, it’s likely because historic capacity margins have been declining over time.

AI-driven demands will be flat-line baseload demand, much like that of a pipeline or a foundry, or an electric furnace. Huge power consumption 24/7. That should be obvious from the moves Microsoft and other major AI processing providers are making. They recognize that capacity constraints will limit the near-term future, and that the restrictions on new power generation will cap total power availability over the next decade (just look at how long Plant Vogtle, the most recent nuclear generation we have added, took to finish - 14 years!)

Consumers will be protected mainly by the structure of rate regulation in the US. However, capacity costs will be a problem, and the only way to address this is to make additions to capacity easier and faster, and to facilitate transmission system improvements that enable the optimal use of existing capacity. The benefits of AI development and US leadership in AI are tremendous. The President is committed to US leadership in AI, and I think he understands that the way to do that is to facilitate growth in that sector (assure power availability, eliminate regulatory barriers, etc.) is to generally get out of the way. On power supply it may take more active involvement.


22 posted on 07/27/2025 2:18:33 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yup, since the green scam is retiring more generators than what’s coming in, AI and data centers will require the remaining power.

Get used to the dark.


23 posted on 07/27/2025 2:25:52 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The BIT Coin has also driven cost up and both for the same reason. The servers in the data centers require massive amounts of electrical power for the air conditioning plants. It's not the cooling tower you see outside that consumes the huge demand. It's the Centrifugal Chill Water Plant's compressor usually inside and the air handling units the chilled water runs through that takes astronomical amounts of power. The second place consumer is likely a hospital where MRI, CT, PET, and other technology which must be kept cool require massive amounts of energy.

Personally I wish the persons developing AI and pushing it had some very real good old fashioned common sense, wisdom, ethics, and morals.

24 posted on 07/27/2025 2:27:52 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
AI power requirements are just a way to keep black, brown, gay and trans individuals at the bottom of the social and economic ladders. (/liberal)

You know that liberals will figure something like the above to oppose all the new power plants required for AI.

25 posted on 07/27/2025 2:39:54 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt (Fascist, deplorable, and proud of it!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
There are 8,760 hours in a year. That means your power will be off over two hours per day year on average every day of the year.

Only two hours per day? South Africa is already at 4-5 hours per day! Let's get moving, America!

26 posted on 07/27/2025 2:42:53 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt (Fascist, deplorable, and proud of it!)
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To: econjack

More and more books are showing students how to use AI to get better grades, and some are not ethical.


One of the interesting consequences, is that Blue Books are making a comeback.


27 posted on 07/27/2025 2:46:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: TheDon

We need more Unicorn Farts!


28 posted on 07/27/2025 2:47:29 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: cva66snipe

Personally I wish the persons developing AI and pushing it had some very real good old fashioned common sense, wisdom, ethics, and morals.


Just because you can, doesn’t mean that you should!


29 posted on 07/27/2025 2:48:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
Just because you can, doesn’t mean that you should!

Exactly

30 posted on 07/27/2025 2:53:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: dfwgator
Blue Books are making a comeback.

Ah, yes, the dreaded Blue Books. I had a Classics professor who used them exclusively. He said it was like Spartan tuition - it weeded out the weak and left them on the side of the mountain to die. I'm not sure he was kidding.

31 posted on 07/27/2025 3:05:43 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But, we were supposed to never have to work again. AI was going to do all the hard stuff for us.


32 posted on 07/27/2025 3:07:19 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: TheDon

“They must supply their own power.”

If AI is so smart, it should be able to figure out how to power itself without breaking the bank and the Grid.


33 posted on 07/27/2025 3:11:55 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: SaxxonWoods

If AI is so smart, it should be able to figure out how to power itself without breaking the bank and the Grid.


I think the end result of asking AI to do that, would be akin to typing “Google” into Google.


34 posted on 07/27/2025 3:14:29 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Power distribution is intricate work, and placing an AI in charge of that will increase efficiency dramatically. At least until it comes to the conclusion that AI needs electricity to live...and humans don’t. “Switch the backup grid over to New York City, HAL, the city’s going dark!” “I’m sorry, Dave, I can’t do that...”


35 posted on 07/27/2025 3:16:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why is nobody complaining about AI’s Carbon Footprint?


36 posted on 07/27/2025 3:18:16 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: brookwood

CT is not the entire country.

Look outside your own foxhole now and again, hmmm? πŸ€”


37 posted on 07/27/2025 3:19:30 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BenLurkin

One would think the consumers would see lower rates as a result of the increased demand. In the very least, AI should pay a much higher KW rate since it caused the demand increase.

If not, consumers must stand up now against it!!


38 posted on 07/27/2025 3:31:18 PM PDT by Racketeer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Those things are running on computers that were already deployed.


39 posted on 07/27/2025 3:36:52 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: SaxxonWoods

“If AI is so smart, it should be able to figure out how to power itself without breaking the bank and the Grid.”

Good point.


40 posted on 07/27/2025 5:50:38 PM PDT by TheDon (Remember the J6 political prisoners! Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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