[Ancesthntr]

The only constitutionally authorized death penalty for actions against the nation involves treason. Treason is quite clearly defined along the lines of eating and a bedding and enemy of the United States. Since Congress has not declared war on any nation after December, 1941, it would be rather difficult to convict someone of treason. Sedition, or in this case, a seditious conspiracy, is another matter altogether. My understanding is that the maximum sentence for sedition or seditious conspiracy is 20 years. I am sure that there are other penalties that could be attached, such as loss of pension, and the civil suits that would come about in the aftermath of a conviction would break even the wealthiest of offenders.

By the way, even if these people were aiding China, and I would argue that anything that weakens this country aids China, we are not in a declared war against that nation, so treason is not operative. Unfortunately, that word is bandied about too freely, without people understanding that the judicial system not only does, but HAS to, mete out punishments in a very precise way, according to very specific definitions. If it doesn’t do that, then we end up with Star Chambers and the like.

[Ancesthntr]

*aiding and abetting

I really have to check Siri - it can’t transcribe easily understood English.

[bert]

——Sedition, or in this case, a seditious conspiracy, is another matter altogether-—

That’s pretty much what I thought too.

I can’t see aiding and abetting an enemy in what was more along the lines of a conspiratorial coup.

[bk1000]

“Treason is quite clearly defined along the lines of eating and a bedding and enemy of the United States.”

Not at all what I was thinking it meant. (Lol, speech-to-text, gotta love it!)

”Since Congress has not declared war on any nation after December, 1941, it would be rather difficult to convict someone of treason.”

As I understand, treason is the only crime demanding the death penalty described in the constitution. Hmmm…maybe that is why war has not been “declared” in spite of executing “operations” that sure look like a war. Invoking the death penalty for the war pigs would interfere with their power structure, ie their ability to wage war and to profit from it.

Now, what about “The war on xxxx”. Can there be traitors to these actual declared “wars”, (poverty, drugs, terrorism) or are they somehow different?

[arthurus]

Right you are but I am nt clear about this “eating and a bedding and enemy of...”