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To: Williams; stanne; metmom; RightOnTheBorder

Let me be clear.

Brandon wrote - “Can we get children under 12 banned from business class…please?”

Let’s explore this more factually.

Yes, Parent should control their kids. In restaurants. Airplanes. Buses. Everywhere. The real failure here is the parents. No question there.

As for Brandon’s actual wish/complaint, United isn’t at fault:

https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html

From what I read, there is nothing here about United guaranteeing customers - business class, coach, first class - a perfect trip. Indeed, there isn’t anything about parents being obligated to control their kids.

I’ve had plenty of flights, train and bus trips I’m my life. Most are peaceful, some were fair, and a handful were awful. The best way to avoid nuisances is loud rock music and reading material.

It also helps to have an understanding that God didn’t guarantee us perfection. Indeed, offer this little imperfection in your life up to God. If an unruly child on a flight triggers you to go on social media petulant frenzy, maybe the problem is in the mirror.

Fly private. Or drive. Or learn to read contracts. Or, start your own airline that bans kids.


95 posted on 07/19/2025 11:23:23 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

I guess *common courtesy* is not in your vocabulary.


102 posted on 07/19/2025 11:37:47 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: DoodleBob; Williams; stanne; RightOnTheBorder

Adults get kicked off flights for bad behavior.

Why is it OK for kids to get away with it?

Nobody ahs a *right* to do as they please when ever they feel like it. That’s called *anarchy* and often a *crime*.

Again, it’s a selfish, immature, entitled attitude.


105 posted on 07/19/2025 11:43:44 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: DoodleBob

1 I agree there is no way to ban children from business class.

2 Your philosophy of being tolerant and tuning others out is admirable.

3 On letting the parents off the hook for hours of bad behavior but by their child, annoying others in a confined situation - you are dead wrong.


106 posted on 07/19/2025 11:44:42 AM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: DoodleBob; Williams; stanne; RightOnTheBorder

By your standard, the kid should have been allowed to rifle through the other’s bags and they should just shut up and take it. After all, people have the right to do what they want and everyone has to tolerate it and shut up.

What classic bully behavior.


107 posted on 07/19/2025 11:46:47 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: DoodleBob; Williams; stanne; metmom

I agree United did not violate their contract but that is hardly the point. Considering business class costs thousands more per ticket United has a vested interest in keeping business travelers happy, and insisting on a higher standard of behavior makes good business sense. If it were common for bad parents to pay for ill-behaved children to fly business class the calculus would be different but as-is there is nothing unreasonable about expecting adult behavior in adult spaces.


115 posted on 07/19/2025 12:00:57 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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