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To: nickcarraway

Just for the sake of argument, we correctly say the murder (or rape or carjaking or subway knifing and beating) would never have take place if the illegal alien had not been allowed across the border into the US by Biden, or if he had been deported. Impossible for the crime if the criminal were out of the US.

For John Lennon.
What if he had been deported. Or self-deported, fed up with the squalor and crime of New York City.

Then he would have been alive.


2 posted on 07/18/2025 3:13:36 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: frank ballenger
Just for the sake of argument, we correctly say the murder (or rape or carjaking or subway knifing and beating) would never have take place if the illegal alien had not been allowed across the border into the US by Biden, or if he had been deported. Impossible for the crime if the criminal were out of the US.

Huh?

3 posted on 07/18/2025 3:15:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: frank ballenger

“What if he had been deported,,, Then he would have been alive.”

That’s certainly an interesting what-if. Some of his less-than-healthy habits might have led to an early demise anyway. Or not. Yoko led a similar lifestyle, and is still among the living at 92, so who knows.


5 posted on 07/18/2025 3:21:52 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: frank ballenger

“Just for the sake of argument, we correctly say the murder (or rape or carjaking or subway knifing and beating) would never have take place if the illegal alien had not been allowed across the border into the US”

Nobody is “allowing” this, it has been forced upon America. To your point I understand what you are trying to convey.

In several countries (not the US, obviously) in any automobile collision the foreign visitor, tourist, visa holder, or whatever is always considered at fault for the accident, regardless of who was at fault, by virtue of the fact that if this non-citizen person was not in the country to begin with, then the collision could not have occurred in the first place.

I’ll not argue whether I agree with this reasoning, but they have a point. I think you’re simply saying deporting John Lennon would have been good for Mr. Lennon in the long run, as he would not have been murdered by the special project wind-up toy. I agree.


30 posted on 07/18/2025 4:46:13 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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