Posted on 07/16/2025 7:46:57 AM PDT by old school
Now any efforts to rein in corruption will be "Trump seeking distraction from his own problems".
“It seems like Trump doesn’t trust the presumption of innocence or something.”
Just the opposite.
What he also knows is that many idiots here will presume guilty.
Didn’t Trump say last year that Epstein didn’t kill himself? Isn’t he one of the main people that started this?
If all it takes is this to cause "supporters" to not "support" this administration then I will boldly say they were never a supporter of restoring the Republic in the first place, but rather, agents of those who would see it collapse.
Yes. That is the problem. So many of MAGA are following after influencers’ opinions and rants, rather than listening to President Trump.
Agree!
"I will continue to be corrupt and treasonous, and if you come after me I will demand the Epstein matter be investigated"
Schiff will be on that by the end of this week.
Exactly this will destroy him and any chance of the Mid Terms! The Truth shall set you free President Trump...
"In 2023, Tucker Carlson asked Trump if it was possible Epstein was killed.
“I don’t know,” Trump said. “I will say that, you know, he was a fixture in Palm Beach.”
Carlson asked again later in the interview.
“Oh, sure, it’s possible. I mean, I don’t really believe — I think he probably committed suicide,” Trump said. “He had a life with, you know, beautiful homes and beautiful everything. And he, all of a sudden, he’s incarcerated and not doing very well. I would say that he did, but there are those people, there are many people — I think you’re one of them, right? But a lot of people think that he was killed. He knew a lot of people.”
Doesn't seem like he did.
The presumption of innocence has nothing to do with this.
That presumption is a legal presumption applicable to the criminal process only. It has nothing to do with public opinion, or the damage or loss to reputation.
For example, consider all the defamation lawsuits, including those urging Trump to file one against AOC. If reputation was truly protected by the legal presumption of innocence, there would never be any defamation lawsuits because nobody's reputation would ever be damaged until a criminal jury found someone guilty.
That clearly isn't the case, and reputations are destroyed based on rumor and innuendo all the time. The problem here is compounded because releasing the documents while protecting all information about the accusers guarantees that the accused will never have the opportunity in a court to clear their name.
The accusers all have had an opportunity to bring a civil lawsuit against whichever individuals other than Epstein they may claim abused them. Over 100 chose to bring such claims against Epstein himself. But to date, only one woman has done so against anyone else, and that was the woman who filed a lawsuit against Prince Andrew.
“Yes. That is the problem. So many of MAGA are following after influencers’ opinions and rants, rather than listening to President Trump.”
Anything to distract from Making America Great Again.
I can be patient and I am willing to think that the democrats DOJ probably messed with Epstein information.
Okay. All he had to do was come out and say there will be a big delay because the files have been corrupted.
All that has happened is unexplained from the release of that unsigned memo and the Axios leak, all the way to that weird exchange at that cabinet meeting replete with a nonsensical video that Pam had put out that says it proves Epstein killed himself but that it doesn’t because that was in the prior frame. Huh?
If we got to the bottom of what, and who, was behind all of that, we would have answers.
I just wish Trump would stay silent once in a while and quit doing things like these damaging posts on media. It looks unhinged and it is so damaging. His voters did not start this. The WH did.
I can’t even imagine what has to happen to repair this nightmare, but maybe someone else has an idea because ???
You say, “No he is tired of this bullcrap, and weak sisters, who aid the left.”
That includes most of the posters on this subject who appear on FR.
“A simple request to release Epstein documents?”
First, you have determine which are valid and which Comey has planted.
Release it all .
We have been dealing with hidden info since 1963 on JFK.
Enough deep state secrets.
A big reason Trump has had support is he led us to believe he was for tearing down the deep state.
His Epstein statements make that suspect
I just want the truth to come out.
Who are not a majority on this site.
It is kind of like saying you got me elected but I don’t need you anymore because you dared to question one of my actions. Not a good thing to say at all.
Exactly!
It is absurd to think the deep state would have preserved a self-incriminating pedophile client list, and refuse to release it to the public.
If such a list was in their possession, why would they not have destroyed it long ago?
And if the FBI had a list proving who’s a pedophile, what’s the point of silencing by murdering Epstein?
I think MAGA needs to let team Trump off the hook - they don’t have a list of pedophiles in high places..
Trump came into office having made all sorts of promises - many of which he’s made good on - a few of which he hasn’t..
He couldn’t lock up Hillary Clinton
He couldn’t end the Ukraine war on day one.
He couldn’t expose a giant DC pedophile ring.
MAGA needs to learn to take the wins and accept some losses -
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