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What We Now KNOW About TWA Flight 800
Jack’s Substack ^ | 8 Jul, 2025 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/09/2025 4:16:16 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: Rinnwald; Vaduz

“Yep. Typical turbofan compression ratio is 40:1, about four times higher than an auto gas engine and about twice that of a diesel engine. That’s why a fairly inert fuel can be used.”

Which brings up the elephant in the room. Even a gasoline engine with an electric arc source will not ignite or run on jet fuel even if it is atomized. The compression ratio and combustion temperatures are just not high enough. It is a settled science that has been around since Lenoir in 1860. The combination of conditions absolutely have to be correct.


181 posted on 07/09/2025 8:38:23 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: Gnome1949
"In the case of TWA 800, the FBI seized the investigation AWAY from NTSB and locked down the information and physical evidence."

Hmm ...

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR0003.pdf

182 posted on 07/09/2025 8:41:09 AM PDT by TexasGator (.i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: Widget Jr

And the plane was at 10,000 feet. Would the missile have enough fuel to get up that high, and out that far?


183 posted on 07/09/2025 8:46:17 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: one guy in new jersey
glowie?

Very much so.

But I wouldn't call him a glowie, he's more a 'dim'ie..

184 posted on 07/09/2025 8:47:52 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats: fake news, fake presidents, fake beliefs, fake policies, fake protesters & fake voters!)
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To: Vaduz
Arc from a wire will do it NTSB has it right they don’t make mistakes or guesses.

They lied. The only wiring around a fuel tank is "intrinsically safe". Look it up. The current in those device is too low to cause a spark or cause sufficient heating to ignite fuel. The "intrinsically safe" attribute is a fixed requirement for those systems.

185 posted on 07/09/2025 8:51:56 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: WildHighlander57

Thank you for chiming in, I was hoping someone who worked in sensitive compartmentalized departments would chime in. It is real, and if you do not comply they can literally destroy your life as you know it. I have been there too... They will disappear you in a heartbeat if it is sensitive enough.

Oddly... The government agencies are not as much to worry about as much as the commercial government contractors are...


186 posted on 07/09/2025 8:52:08 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: PLMerite

Well, sure. I actually do not believe the Navy shot the flight down. I suspect it was a terrorist launch.


187 posted on 07/09/2025 8:53:19 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: DiogenesLamp

Then how do aircraft fires occur? There is no atomization going on in a crash or engine fire.


188 posted on 07/09/2025 8:53:26 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: JHL
I guess you haven't been reading my posts carefully. Sure, everybody knows a missile was launched. The whole ship shakes and the noise permeates everything. Only those in the fire control center and command positions know the target and the success of the launch. You don't stand on the deck while missiles are launched.

All said and done, I don't think the Navy shot TWA 300 down.

189 posted on 07/09/2025 8:59:40 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: DiogenesLamp; Vaduz

“But judging by your behavior, if I did shoot electrical arcs into Jet fuel, and videoed it, then showed you the video, you would still deny the truth of it in favor of what the government propaganda is.”

That is the most important statement that has been made yet in this thread other than my own conveying the very same message. And it is true of almost all threads here that display ANY criticism of government.

This place is chocked full of those who consider the government as their master and infallible source of information. Government would NEVER lie... And this stupidity and trust in government is exactly why we are going to lose this battle for our Republic...


190 posted on 07/09/2025 9:04:28 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: mfish13

“Then how do aircraft fires occur? There is no atomization going on in a crash or engine fire.”

Fires yes, explosions no...


191 posted on 07/09/2025 9:05:37 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: MtnClimber

IIRC, they released some photos showing the shrapnel holes in the fuselage from the exploding missile?


192 posted on 07/09/2025 9:06:49 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Openurmind; mfish13

“Fires yes, explosions no...”

Read the NTSB report. I posted a link in an earlier post.


193 posted on 07/09/2025 9:08:25 AM PDT by TexasGator (-i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: mfish13
Then how do aircraft fires occur? There is no atomization going on in a crash or engine fire.

Once you've got it lit, the fuel will atomize itself from the heat.

Candle wax will burn too if you get it hot enough so that it will atomize itself.

194 posted on 07/09/2025 9:08:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: WildHighlander57

WildHighlander57 wrote: “Yes, with certain levels of security clearances there comes a lifelong requirement to not talk about what was done/worked on. Been there, done that. This would explain why nobody on board that ship talked.”

I’ve been there too and that explains nothing. There is no requirement to ever follow an illegal order. An order to cover up killing over 200 civilians is on it’s face, illegal.

And, can you imagine the government ever prosecuting someone who violated that illegal order? Just imagine, the prosecutor telling the judge/jury that they had to convict such a whistle blower? They would be laughed out of court.


195 posted on 07/09/2025 9:09:03 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Deaf Smith

“...was the pilot of the NG helicopter that witnessed a missile rising up from the waters prior to TWA800 exploding and gave radio traffic description.....

He became unreachable after that time.”

Sounds like a No Contact order. I had one when I was in. Kinda sucks cutting ppl off like that.

The fact they didn’t home in on anyone proffered a story kinda indicates somebody Fd up.


196 posted on 07/09/2025 9:36:59 AM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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To: TexasGator
Read the NTSB report. I posted a link in an earlier post.

The NTSB report on Flight 800 is a lie. It was part of the Clinton ordered coverup.

If you understand the information contained in it, you can see that the report is a lie.

But you have to know what a Joule is, and what the combustion temperatures of Jet Fuel is. You have to know what amperage is, and you have to know what fusing is.

If you are knowledgeable about the things described in that report, you can tell it is a lie. If you are ignorant of such things, you are wasting your time reading it.

197 posted on 07/09/2025 9:45:08 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: TexasGator; mfish13

“JET-A1 boils at around 150°C - 250°C and has a flashpoint above 38˚C, which is crucial as the fuel could ignite dangerously.”

“AVGAS, a petroleum-based fuel, has a typical octane rating of 91 or 100 for a lean mixture and 96 or 130 for a rich mixture. Kerozene, on the other hand, has a much lower octane rating of around 15, which makes it similar to automotive diesel and much more resistant to detonation caused by sparks or compression.”

https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/properties-jet-aviation-fuel


198 posted on 07/09/2025 9:47:36 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: DiogenesLamp

“If you are ignorant of such things, you are wasting your time reading it.”

Sounds like you wasted your time reading it.


199 posted on 07/09/2025 9:48:20 AM PDT by TexasGator (-i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: Openurmind

What is your point?


200 posted on 07/09/2025 9:49:26 AM PDT by TexasGator (-i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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