[alternatives?]

Panzer Blitz?

[yuleeyahoo]

I played a lot of Feudal and Diplomacy in the 70s. I didn’t play games like Panzer Blitz and Squad Leader until the 80s.

[MotorCityBuck]

Yep.
Avalon Hill Die cut board games.
Hours and hours.😄👍

[sphinx]

I grew up with board wargames and played fron early Avalon Hill through the SPI/GDW monster game era. Board wargames have their limitations — players have far too much information, no fog of war, sequential as opposed to simultaneous movement — but we did learn a lot about the maps and orders of battle. We also learned a lot about times of arrival and questions of distance and mass.

During my time, the leading designers were focused on accuracy, which meant that the games became unplayable. And no gamer ever wanted to deal with logistics, but that is kinda, sorta important so the designers kept going deeper into the weeds.

All in all, they were a great corrective to the tendency of narrative history to focus too narrowly on the battle piece.

[j.havenfarm]

Too hard. Give me Risk any day

[Rockingham]

A great war game by Jim Dunnigan of SPI.

[ifinnegan]

Avalon Hill war simulation games were more high end.

Not commonly played like the others, but yes, those were popular games.

[Justa]

Went from Feudal to Avalon Hill. The dice and charts made wargaming more dimensional than a set piece game.

[The Louiswu]

Hours, days of fun and endless expansion packs

[grey_whiskers]

+1

[Conan the Librarian]

I got Panzer Leader first, but, the concept was the same.

Good to know there are some other fans here.

[AppyPappy]

I still have :
Panzer Leader
Arab Israeli Wars
Guns of August
3rd Reich
Squad Leader (not ASL)