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Texas officials face scrutiny over response to catastrophic and deadly flooding
Yahoo ^ | July 5, 2025 | Sean Murphy and Jim Vertuno

Posted on 07/05/2025 9:23:29 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

“There’s going to be a lot of finger-pointing, a lot of second-guessing and Monday morning quarterbacking,” said Republican U.S. Rep. Chip Roy, whose district includes Kerr County. “There’s a lot of people saying ‘why’ and ‘how,’ and I understand that.”

“We know we get rains. We know the river rises,” said Kerr County Judge Rob Kelly, the county's top elected official. “But nobody saw this coming.”

Kerrville City Manager Dalton Rice said he was jogging along the river early in the morning and didn't notice any problems at 4 a.m. A little over an hour later, at 5:20 a.m., the water level had risen dramatically, and “we almost weren't able to get out of the park,” he said.

Rice also noted that the public can become desensitized to too many weather warnings.

Kelly said the county considered a flood warning system along the river that would have functioned like a tornado warning siren about six or seven years ago, before he was elected, but that the idea never got off the ground because of the expense.

“We’ve looked into it before … The public reeled at the cost,” Kelly said.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Weather
KEYWORDS: campmystic; flood; guadaluperiver; kerrcounty; texas

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Kelly said the county considered a flood warning system along the river that would have functioned like a tornado warning siren about six or seven years ago, before he was elected, but that the idea never got off the ground because of the expense.
1 posted on 07/05/2025 9:23:29 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

This is Yahoo now. So silly

They haven’t even recovered all casualties.


2 posted on 07/05/2025 9:27:04 PM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

They could just declare anything less than fifty feet above the river as off limits to all humans. That would make it safe. Maybe...


3 posted on 07/05/2025 9:29:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Look how fast the rivers rose at the start of this video

Timelapse video showing the flooding of the Llano River in Texas on July 4th
https://rumble.com/v6vrq5d-timelapse-video-show-the-flooding-of-the-llano-river-in-texas-on-july-4th.html


4 posted on 07/05/2025 9:35:17 PM PDT by janetjanet998 (Please don’t use google products, especially YouTube )
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To: janetjanet998

24 feet in 45 minutes, according to some reports.

Good luck getting clear of that.


5 posted on 07/05/2025 9:38:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: janetjanet998

I found it interesting that they already had posts for the “road closed” signs already set there. Also the non-vegetated zones goes up to that mark. Obviously it floods to that height with some regularity.


6 posted on 07/05/2025 9:42:19 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant - Never Fearful)
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To: stanne

It will most probably post all articles concerning this tragedy until another one pops up.
It’s a GOP troll pushing DeSantis on the bodies of the dead.💀
Happy Sunday y’all.


7 posted on 07/05/2025 9:59:55 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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To: MotorCityBuck

Oy vey. Now I see that. Thanks.


8 posted on 07/05/2025 10:00:51 PM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: stanne

No problem.
There easy to spot with some practice.😊


9 posted on 07/05/2025 10:05:19 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“ I am probably decades younger than you. Don’t want to waste time tiffing with an old man.”

This is one of 3 Messages from the thread creator to me personally.

I told it to knock it off or I would post it for all to see.

The previous 2 are just as weird.


10 posted on 07/05/2025 10:47:13 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I agree with folks that suggested roving guards and watches at camp sites to monitor weather and general camp safety. A buddy team already awake, alert, situationally aware, and ready to call in assistance when needed.


11 posted on 07/06/2025 3:27:49 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The REAL TARGET is Ken Paxton, who’s running for Senate next year. But since Paxton has nothing to do with flood warnings (he’s currently Attorney General here), they figure they’ll try to tar him by association >> “Texas Republican leaders caused this mess, Paxton is a Texas Republican leader”.

As to river warnings, I can see people having ‘warning fatigue’, since we seem to get an Amber Alert every time a parent forgets to pick up their kid at daycare, and get a Tornado Warning every time a tree branch moves, so they do need to work out a balance here.


12 posted on 07/06/2025 3:33:21 AM PDT by BobL
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“But nobody saw this coming.”

bullshit ... they had plenty of warnings from the National Weather Service that SEVERE rains were on the way, but they were too stupid, incompetent, backwards, and/or lazy to do anything about it, you know, like issue local emergency warnings ASAP ...

around here, we have reverse-911 emergency warnings for BFD events ...


13 posted on 07/06/2025 3:33:33 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: BradyLS

Also, designated assembly areas on high ground.


14 posted on 07/06/2025 3:38:14 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: janetjanet998

The video is for the Llano river. The major loss of life came from the Guadalupe river.


Look how fast the rivers rose at the start of this video

Timelapse video showing the flooding of the Llano River in Texas on July 4th
https://rumble.com/v6vrq5d-timelapse-video-show-the-flooding-of-the-llano-river-in-texas-on-july-4th.html


15 posted on 07/06/2025 4:14:22 AM PDT by Dacula
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Initial flood watch warning went out the previous afternoon around 1:18 PM - people ignored and went to bed to wake up to catastrophe...


16 posted on 07/06/2025 5:59:47 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: BobL

Yup you are right about Ken Paxton. Yesterday’s tv emergency round news conference from Gov Abbott and all his colleagues had Bondi sitting on the Gov right side and John Cornyn on his left, front row.

I about got sick -never saw Cornyn front and center for any other TX emergency conference. He was first to speak after Gov and Bondi. No sign of Cruz or AG Paxton-probably not asked or notified to come.


17 posted on 07/06/2025 6:21:46 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: catnipman

Stop.

There were NOT plenty of warnings.

The two urgent warnings came in the night.

The previous day forecast said heavy rains (8 inches) possible. The river rose at a rate of 12 inches per minute.

Enough of the profane blame game.

How about your fix CO, before blaming TX officials and citizens?


18 posted on 07/06/2025 6:26:47 AM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
According the Wikipedia entry for the Guadalupe River, there was a major flood in July of 1987 which is similar. It might be a good idea to remind people in this area, July is a dangerous month for floods. What's odd is there seems to be no historical memory among the locals or the weather service of similar flood conditions.

"On July 17, 1987, a sudden flash flood swept a bus full of children away at a low water crossing. The incident occurred near the town of Comfort, Texas, which lies about 50 miles (80 km) northwest of San Antonio. At the time, the Pot O' Gold Ranch, which is situated on the south side of the river about two miles southwest of Comfort, was hosting a church camp, with over 300 children from various churches attending. On the night of July 16 and into the morning of the 17th, almost 12 inches (300 mm) of rain had fallen across the Texas hill country to the north, triggering immense flooding on the Guadalupe River. The camp was scheduled to end on the 17th and the children were going home later that day, but camp supervisors at the ranch decided to evacuate the children early that morning before it rose too high. At around 9 am that morning, the children were loaded into buses and the buses were directed to a low water crossing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadalupe_River_(Texas)

Almost 40 years ago, 10 children died in a Comfort flood that shook Texas

19 posted on 07/06/2025 6:34:57 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Maps of flood prone areas have been around for years and local emergency management agencies should have assessed those hazards. These camps should never have been allowed to be built in areas subject to flooding or at least should have been required to have and tested evacuation plans. It seems that local authorities dropped the ball


20 posted on 07/06/2025 6:37:42 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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