Posted on 07/05/2025 9:47:18 AM PDT by RandFan
@Mylovanov
Trump: We had a strong, strategic call with Zelenskyy — we continue our support. The situation is tough.
My call with Putin was disappointing. He seems determined to keep the war going. Not good.
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“Are the Neocons and the MIC winning Trump’s ear?”
If someone has a different opinion than you have they are a “neocon”?
What is a “neocon”?
Not good. I am beginning to think Trumps advisors have turned, like his last term.
Trump was elected on the platform of Peace, not more wars and proxy wars….especially for a severely corrupted comedian like Z.
What is a “neocon”?
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How old are you? Do you remember the first Gulf War? Our Neo cons have been promoting war everywhere across the world since then….Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, Bosnia, Lebanon, etc….war with anyone across the globe that doesn’t agree with ever changing US foreign policy.
Time stop all our misguided foreign interventions.
People laugh at Russia for their three year Ukrainian SMO, but I will remind them the US has been warring in the ME since 1991, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc ….
and have lost all them.
Had we properly “neoconned” Iran in 1979 likely none of the other wars would have happened .
We aren’t Canada .
We unfortunately have a role in the world
The Dems/Biden caused this by urging NATO to accept Ukraine.
Let’s not forget how the Rats actively sabotaged Trump’s planned rare-earth minerals offer - by meeting with Zelensky just prior to the meeting and psyching him up to push back on Trump in that very public WH meeting...
Great way to end the war on “day one.” This is Trump’s carbon copy of Biden’s failure.
1. Foolishly dump money and our military gear into a black (shit)hole.
2. Useless sanctions.
3. No end game or articulation of victory.
“People laugh at Russia for their three year Ukrainian SMO, but I will remind them the US has been warring in the ME since 1991, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc ….
and have lost all them.”
People laugh at Russia for their three year Ukrainian SMO, but I will remind them Russia has been warring in the ME since before 1991, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc ….
and have lost all them.
“Trump is giving Putin the most valuable thing: time. “
Russia doesn’t have time. Putin was financing the war from their pension and that has been depleted. Oligarchs are growing restless with decreases in their scam revenue streams.
“and the Russians keep winning and taking territory.”
And now, after three years, they hold about the same percent as they did in 2022.
I think Putin has to fight this war for two big reasons: NATO encroaching into the Eastern Bloc after NATO had promised (under Baker in 1991) to not expand 2) The Nazi like character of the Ukrainian regime that wants to ban Russian language and persecute its own people who speak it (as in the Donbas). So time is needed to correct these nonnegotiable points. As well, the Russians see it as an existential threat — in the same way that JFK saw the delivery of Russian missiles (Cuban Missile crisis) to Cuba an existential threat.
I think the Russians will push on easily now that the big defense lines of Ukraine have been breached or next to it. Chasiv Yar is pretty well taken except for one micro district, Procosv (logistic hub) is being surrounded, Sumy district is breached, etc. The Russian will soon be at the Dnipro River, and it will be an easy walk into the rest of Ukraine. Russia is moving in on all fronts. And the war they are fighting is a war of attrition — gone are Ukraine’s trained soldiers of 2022, all the heavy tanks and equipment, protection in the air, etc. As well, because of the shortage of men, there are press gangs roaming the streets. So it doesn’t look good for Ukraine.
“after NATO had promised “
Fake news
“The Nazi like character of the Ukrainian regime”
More Russian propaganda
If you look at some of the picture of its Azov brigade soldiers, they are wearing Nazi tattoos and if you look at the brigade patches they have something resembling a lighting SS sign. So I don’t think it is that far from the truth. As well, the Ukrainians did fight with the Nazi Waffen-SS in WWII. So the ideology is not that far removed.
All debunked.
How the Russian Media Spread False Claims About Ukrainian Nazis
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/07/02/world/europe/ukraine-nazis-russia-media.html
The New York Times?
“but there is a lot of chatter that Putin is preparing to go into the Baltic countries.”
More like wishful thinking by the Ukes, their last desperate hope.
Your post is full of mischaracterizations, many of which are often repeated by pro-Russian propagandists, who sadly, have found a home here on FR.
First, NATO does not, nor ever has, “encroach” anywhere. Free nations of Europe are able to apply for membership in NATO, which unsurprisingly, most of the former Warsaw Pact countries have done as quickly as they could. Likewise, NATO “expansion” is a myth - it only enlarges by voluntary admission.
Next, Baker only promised the Russians that NATO would not move “one inch eastward” in Germany (where Soviet troops were still stationed), not in Europe, meaning that the U.S. would not build bases in East Germany. To my recollection, we never did.
The Ukrainians were not banning Russian from being spoken -another mischaracterization- but only to ensure the official language of Ukraine -Ukrainian- was preserved in all parts of Ukraine - similar to what we agree as America using English in its official acts and in its schools. The initial laws certainly permitted Russian to be spoken, even as the main language in primary schools, but they have, since the orc army invasion of Ukraine, become more restrictive: a consequence of resistance to Russia’s aggression, and Russian is still not “banned”.
I’ll refrain from commenting at length on your “expert” military analysis, except to say that I found it amusing.
Operation Bush 3.0 continues apace.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, he does mention Germany, but he doesn’t say eastward. He says, “to the east.” But the major point for me is that Russia has been attacked numerous times through the corridor that is Ukraine. And they would not like to have missiles pointed towards them, much in the same way that JFK didn’t want Russian missiles in Cuba pointed towards the United States. Russia wants a defense, or at least a neutral Ukraine, to act as a buffer zone defense. Russia and the US are not that different — the US invasion of Grenada exemplifies that point.
As far as language goes, I think there was more to it than agreeing that Ukrainian was spoken in all parts of Ukraine, like English is the official language of the US. There is a neo-Nazi movement that wants purity of language and will go to extreme ends. And it is not uncommon to have that movement because historically Ukrainians also sided with Hitler’s Waffen-SS against the Russians in WWII. Further, Ukrainians suffered starvation during the 1920s at the hands of Stalin, so, understandably, they have a grudge with the Russians.
I would like to see peace, and I don’t care for the color revolution and its tactics in other countries — it’s like a dark force under the city of light. I think Russia is not perfect, but they are conservative as far as family values go, and are not banning elections and the Orthodox church. Ukraine has banned both.
There is no wishful thinking that Russia invade NATO countries.
We are busy preparing defenses because there is a belief Putin may invade.
It’s tiresome reading the absurd mantra that Russia is a poor little lamb and we’re trying to invade it.
Russia is a failed nuclear power and Putin is a psychopath trying to brutally resurrect a Russian empire.
People who pretend otherwise will suffer.
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