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1 posted on 07/05/2025 5:50:09 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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Yes, socialism has far too many cheerleaders.


2 posted on 07/05/2025 5:50:27 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Every healthy society consists of three components: The family, the church and the marketplace.

Government is a parasite.


4 posted on 07/05/2025 5:57:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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So instead of “capitalism”, “capitalist?”


5 posted on 07/05/2025 6:02:52 AM PDT by Mogger ( 7th generation Vermonter, refugee in New Hampshire hoping NH remains sane.)
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True capitalism has never been tried.


6 posted on 07/05/2025 6:03:32 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Nullius in verba)
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We need to stop calling it capitalism. That was originally a pejorative term invented by Karl Marx. A better, and more accurate term is the free market.


8 posted on 07/05/2025 6:05:21 AM PDT by Salohcin
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As I understand it, the term "capitalism" and "exploitationism" have become synonyms among some educators and pundits, not to mention wage slaves.

One reason can be found in the numerous companies/corporations where the management style unfairly exploits employees in non-management tiers. Unrealistic goals. Overly compressed timelines for tasks. Unpaid overtime (think weekend work). Theft of credit for ideas and execution. Wage compression. Malicious office politics."Old boy networking."

The enemy of capitalism is the Peter Principle. Incompetents rise to the top like poisoned creme in the milk. Those of us without management skills, and know it, try to resist this effect, with varying degrees of success. The problem? Compensation all too often is linked with how many people work for you. This creates an untenable tension.

Consider what is happening in the job market right now. Perfectly capable recent college graduates are finding that there is a brick wall between them and their first real job. Many reasons for that problem: AI, massive layoffs, death spiral of legacy companies, political meddling (think unsustainable minimum wage), and more.

The root of Socialism is "kill out the old rascals, bring in the new rascals, with me at the top." It's not about equality. And you can forget about meritocracy. It's all about ME, ME, ME and the rest of you can go hang.

I'll go and gum my soup now.

9 posted on 07/05/2025 6:19:07 AM PDT by asinclair (Indict DNC for RICO?)
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Ugh. Terrible

Capitalism supports capital. It’s not that hard.

Or: The guy with the gold makes the rules.


10 posted on 07/05/2025 6:22:16 AM PDT by Fido969
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Horse race? In the TOTALITARIAN CUP it’s Mohammed on the inside, Marx on the outside. At the wire it Mohammed by a head. They’re both a pile of horse crap. They stink too.


14 posted on 07/05/2025 6:31:14 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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The principles of capitalism are like the physics of an economy.

Physics provides an understanding of the material world. You may not like the law of gravity, but at a minimum, you better recognize its existence. You can defy it (airplanes do that every day), but if you’re designing and flying airplanes, understanding and respecting the law of gravity (and the other laws of physics) is necessary if you don’t want to crash and burn.

Similarly, you may not like the law of supply and demand, but if you’re going to poke around in the world of economics, you better appreciate and take into account that law (and the other principles of the market) or things can crash and burn in that venue as well. Just ask the Venezueleans or the North Koreans.

So in that sense the bases of capitalism are just a recognition of economic reality, as opposed to the economic fantasies of socialism or communism. Those economic realities can be manipulated, perhaps for evil (as can the realities of the physical world), but they’re still hard realities.


16 posted on 07/05/2025 6:33:07 AM PDT by Stosh
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“Capitalism” is just a label. Its meaning depends on the opinion of the person using the word. I Think of it more as personal freedom to conduct business and earn a living as one sees fit as long as they don’t violate the “natural law”, generally called out in things like the ten commandments or the two commandments called out by Jesus.


18 posted on 07/05/2025 6:37:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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In order to grow, businesses need new capital. Relying on massive amounts of borrowed capital alone is simply not possible.

To facilitate the acquiring of capital, the corporation evolved.

To facilitate the existence and growth of corporations, governance was developed and continuously modified.

That process is capitalism


22 posted on 07/05/2025 6:43:26 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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It’s not Capitalism, it’s Free Enterprise.

Don’t use your enemies’s language and definitions.


23 posted on 07/05/2025 6:46:43 AM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous worl)
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Was it not Marx himself who coined the term “capitalism”?


26 posted on 07/05/2025 6:49:38 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me." Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people.
27 posted on 07/05/2025 6:53:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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It was Karl Marx who defined and popularized the term. He used it to describe an economic system that was doomed to fail.


42 posted on 07/05/2025 8:38:23 AM PDT by The_Harlequin (…the time will arrive when you will learn to judge for yourself of what is going on in the world, wi)
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How the hell did this crazy nutball communist who talks about seizing the means of production when the Democratic primary for New York mayor? Our Democrats this stupid? Nowhere in the US Constitution is it legal to seize the means of production.


43 posted on 07/05/2025 9:05:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (no i think 10%consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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free enterprise is the result of the natural law of individual rights

capital is required to have a decent standard of living

should the capital be controlled by the govt or individuals?

by the govt is a totalitarian society

by individuals is a free society


44 posted on 07/05/2025 9:41:21 AM PDT by joshua c
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I think Jesse Jackson said something like “Without capital, capitalism is just another ism.”


46 posted on 07/05/2025 10:01:58 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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“Ev’rybody’s talking ‘bout
Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
This-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance”


47 posted on 07/05/2025 10:03:10 AM PDT by plain talk
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"Capitalism" is a pejorative.

Free enterprise!

50 posted on 07/05/2025 10:44:29 AM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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