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Trump tells Zelensky he wants to help Ukraine with air defense, sources say
Axios ^ | 7/4/2025 | Barak Ravid

Posted on 07/04/2025 7:58:55 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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“Russia will run out of missiles by autumn 2022”

This and more such lies lead to the death of s million. That’s how Kiev looked today.

pic.twitter.com/aff4DQivaA— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) July 4, 2025


21 posted on 07/04/2025 8:28:58 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Quit making stuff up. You have no credibility.


22 posted on 07/04/2025 8:29:01 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“Still, it’s kind of insulting to have somebody lie to your face during a campaign and get away with it.”

Trump hate finds shiny thing! Trump didn’t lie. He thought he could influence Putin. He was mistaken.


23 posted on 07/04/2025 8:37:25 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: marcusmaximus
Blame Putin. Not President Trump.

Why would I blame Putin for not fulfilling a promise that candidate Trump made? That's nonsensical.

Trump knew when he made that promise that it require the cooperation of Zelensky and Putin. Of course, he also made public statements disclaiming any further aid for Ukraine, which removed any leverage he might have had over Putin.

Now - big surprise to anyone with half a brain - Putin isn't going along with what Trump wants him to do. Shocker!

So we're left with one of two conclusions:

1) Trump knew when he made that promise that he might not be able to fulfill it, but figured voters would believe him anyway so he might as well lie, or;

2) Trump was delusional and actually believed he could force two countries at war to end it within 24 hours of him being elected.

So which is it?

There are a lot of things I like about what Trump has done, but it is him saying stupid crap like this that will make me glad when his term is over. It's insulting that he actually believes people are stupid enough to believe him.

24 posted on 07/04/2025 8:44:08 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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Trump didn’t lie. He thought he could influence Putin. He was delusional.

Fixed it for you.

25 posted on 07/04/2025 8:45:37 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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New Russian Offensive Captures 30 SQKM Along Kharkiv-Belgorod Border

Kamyanske Has Collapsed l Us Stops Military Aid To Ukraine l A Complete Disaster For Ukraine

Chasiv Yar Collapsed After Months Of Massive Fighting l A Big Victory For Russian Forces

26 posted on 07/04/2025 8:48:27 AM PDT by Kazan
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New Russian Offensive Captures 30 SQKM Along Kharkiv-Belgorod Border

Kamyanske Has Collapsed l Us Stops Military Aid To Ukraine l A Complete Disaster For Ukraine

Chasiv Yar Collapsed After Months Of Massive Fighting l A Big Victory For Russian Forces

27 posted on 07/04/2025 8:49:01 AM PDT by Kazan
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>>>>The U.S. arms shipments to Ukraine via Poland are back on, Ivan.<<<<

“US halts Ukraine-bound weapons already staged in Poland, WSJ reports”

https://kyivindependent.com/us-halts-ukraine-bound-weapons-already-staged-in-poland-wsj-reports-06-2025/

This article is from yesterday. Do you have a more current CREDIBLE source, Volodymyr?


28 posted on 07/04/2025 9:00:54 AM PDT by bimboeruption ((“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023) )
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“So I guess that whole “I will end that war within 24 hours” thing was just a bunch of campaign b.s..”

You’re taking Trump’s words literally instead of taking them seriously.


29 posted on 07/04/2025 9:17:52 AM PDT by Kleon
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Trump doesn’t believe this crap. This is all for Linda Graham’s benefit, signifying nothing.


30 posted on 07/04/2025 9:29:54 AM PDT by montag813
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Military Summary Channel
https://youtu.be/C1oxiAUEY4c
Russians start a new offensive in Kharkov Region and celebrate fireworks over Kiev.😉


31 posted on 07/04/2025 9:42:31 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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The problem with Zito's aphorism is that a lot of his supporters do take him literally.

I remember discussing this specific promise with a bunch of other Freepers when he made it. When I pointed out Trump had no leverage and that he was being bamboozled by Putin, I was told that I was a leftist plant, that Trump knew how to bring on pressure that we didn't even know about because it was secret, and that I should just watch it happen as he said.

It wasn't "don't take him literally", or "he doesn't mean he's actually going to bring peace - he's just saying that he'll try", etc.. No, they believed him.

The "don't take him literally" line is just the excuse after the promise is broken.

32 posted on 07/04/2025 11:12:04 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Kleon

And in any case, how could you interpret that promise “seriously, but not literally?”. What’s the “serious” interpretation? Because even that seems to have failed miserably.


33 posted on 07/04/2025 11:14:01 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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Green Tshirt Midget Dictator Daily Propagsnda


34 posted on 07/04/2025 1:08:04 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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The MIC wins again.


35 posted on 07/04/2025 1:10:17 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Stop posting garbage from Axios.


36 posted on 07/05/2025 8:55:13 AM PDT by cp124 (Bring back the Constitution.)
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