Posted on 07/04/2025 3:53:36 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
The collapse of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is one of the great tragedies of history.
T.Y. Very informative.
I now realize Russia’s intervention was even more significant for the N than I thought.
PS
Lincoln Secretary Hays called the Russians “Fiendishly” ugly. 😝
Thx
Yes, Russia was neutral during our revolutionary war. Russia was conflicted. As a rival of Great Britain, it might sympathize with the Americans. But, as an empire, it opposed revolutionaries.
Russia was relatively early in recognizing us (1803), though not first. And, during the 19th Century, we (the U.S. and Russia) developed a working relationship. For example, Russia sold Alaska to us rather than see it fall into the hands of the British.
Something we (again, the U.S. and Russia) should begin to celebrate is the near coincidence of our two countries ending slavery and ending serfdom. This was a great advance in freedom for the entire human race.
One day, hopefully, we will look at the time of rivalry between the U.S. and Russia as an interruption of the friendship that started during the 19th Century.
“The author says WW2 allowed Stalin and Hitler to basically ruin the reputation of nationalism which allow all the leftist crap we see today. “
I was born in 1958 and even as a kid I had this perception. You couldn’t possibly avoid seeing it as far as I was concerned.
They fought with us for six whole months in the summer of 1917. Although there weren’t many American troops in Europe until late 1917.
Germany gets the blame for WWI, but had Czar Nicky not mobilized, there may very well have not been a war. His cousin, Willie, begged Nicky not to do it.
lol What? Rats created the Ukraine and have been its cheerleaders.
Kamyanske Has Collapsed l Us Stops Military Aid To Ukraine l A Complete Disaster For Ukraine
Chasiv Yar Collapsed After Months Of Massive Fighting l A Big Victory For Russian Forces
Dana left the Congress to accompany John Adams to Paris as a secretary to the diplomatic delegation.[3] In 1780, he was named as American minister to the Russian Empire, and while he never gained official recognition from Catherine the Great,[4] he remained in Saint Petersburg until 1783.
It should also be noted that as a teenager, John Quincy Adams was with Dana in St. Petersburg as a French translator.
I’m not remembering very well but there was something like King George wanting to hire Russian mercenaries for the American Revolutionary War (Russian not Prussian) but Russia reneged on the deal. Britian was forced to quickly hire the Hessians instead. The deal made Britain mad at Russia for a long time.
Anyways Russians were almost on the wrong side of that war.
250 years ago the Brits, French, Spanish had their fingers in everything. Russia and other counties did not get involved.
The early Americans learned from that. You can choose to get involved...or to not get involved...or choose the time and place to get involved and not try to solve every injustice in the universe.
How do you fight the cancer of Islam when they keep on outbreeding us?
1700 years ago, there was no Islam. Now there are over a billion of them...
Oh BS.
Ah, the melody is still used, but the Soviet Union is mentioned quite distinctly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Anthem_of_the_Soviet_Union#Origins
And the assertion that „Germany“ created the Soviet Union is the first time I ever heard that assertion. I think it never could have happened without the discontent in Russia with the Kerensky government.
And this might never have occurred without the Russian mobilisation on July 30th 1914, when Emperor Wilhelm pleaded on the telephone with the Czar to call back his troops. The Czar said that he couldn’t change it any more and wished God’s blessing on the Emperor. And everyone knows how it ended.
Oh, and: Happy Independence Day to all Americans!🇺🇸🎆
The Soviet Union and “our great republics”, are mentioned, but never Russia, or Georgia, or Belarus, or Ukraine. The Soviet Union was the Russian Empire, by another name. Germany, which was only united in 1860 was more of a country than the Soviet Union.
The Germans sent Lenin in to stir things up in Russia. How did that work out for you?
They also gave us Karl Marx the intellectual father of all bad ideas, though “Marxist” sentiments were in the air in Europe and America, so they would have caught on under a different name. As you know, the Nazis blamed the communists for the Versailles, and all its ills, and Jews were overrepresented with left-wing ideology. The Nazis were National Socialist, it’s in their name.
There is an American joke that goes:
Time traveler: I went back to 1913 to kill Hitler, but I got Woodrow Wilson by mistake.
Listener in 2025: Who’s Hitler?
(The joke is: No Wilson, no Hitler. Most people don’t get it.)
Point taken.
Yes, in hindsight it was a great mistake to send Lenin to Russia, such as it probably wasn’t the greatest idea by the leadership of France to attack its Eastern neighbour (once again, for the twenty-fifth time since 876 AD, when France and Germany were just evolving from the breakup of the former Frankish Empire) in 1870? And so on, and on…an endless chain of injustices and undesired results…
And to blame Marx on my people is a bit farfetched, since many of his ideological forerunners were not German. Furthermore, philosophers of his day were already relatively international in the ways they thought and felt.
Sorry about that. And another thing: my country was not founded in 1871, but formed between 843 and 962, i.e. the breakup of the Frankish Empire and the coronation of the first German Emperor, Otto the Great.
And I am very sorry, but I cannot see why President Wilson would have helped - albeit indirectly- have helped Hitler to come to power.
After all, didn’t he call for moderation, instead of revenge, towards the Central Powers after the War had been won?
Or was it that he didn’t oppose America‘s entry into the conflict vigorously enough, due to the Lusitania disaster (though by now it is sure at last, that this tragic vessel did indeed carry contraband, which had never been officially avowed), the very skilful British atrocity propaganda (the like of which hadn’t been seen since the horror of the Thirty Years War, the depredations of which had been significantly worsened by that kind of lies, whereupon it was abstained from until the 20th century) and his own Anglophilia?
Many questions, I know, but over here he is mostly known for the „right to self-determination of the nations“, which he promulgated with great emphasis.
People blame Wilson for the Treaty of Versailles. A lot of Americans think America’s entry was a mistake. Wilson was a rabid anglophile, after he was reelected in 1916, he took the opportunity to jump in and bail out the Allies. If the U.S. had stayed out, and not supported the Allies, Germany would have received much better terms.
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