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SocSec Email - "BBB eliminates federal income taxes on Social Security for 90% of beneficiaries..."
SocSec Email To zeestephen | 04 July 2025

Posted on 07/04/2025 3:34:48 AM PDT by zeestephen

Just received this email from SocSec - This is NOT posted on the SocSec website - "BBB provides an enhanced deduction for taxpayers aged 65 and older..."


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To: Fresh Wind

Hmmm. I thought I heard the signing was 9 AM, now I am hearing it is 5 PM today. Whatever.

God bless President Trump!


21 posted on 07/04/2025 5:27:33 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Kamala defines herself in just 4 words..."Nothing comes to mind.")
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To: one guy in new jersey

Even that was a lie. They exempt 10k a year in overtime, and all the tips still have to get reported and withheld just like now. Then at tax time you can claim an exemption, and this whole scam only lasts 3.5 more years.

And the SS is just tinkering at the edge. You still get taxed on SS and the small adjustment is temporary and ends in a little over 3 years. Repubs has a big chance and blew it with another half assed product.

Even worse, now they feel no pressure to do it.


22 posted on 07/04/2025 5:33:20 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: microgood

Yeah, it’s smoke and mirrors chicanery. All they had to do was directly exclude SS payments from being taxable income. The republicans refused. And now they are claiming it’s done…so that’s it. SS won’t get anything else.


23 posted on 07/04/2025 5:37:57 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: dixie drifter

But the Trump tax cuts are permanent now. I think these congress critters always want an issue to run in the future. With trump rates permanent, now the politicians lose that issue, so now they have ‘making the no tax on tips/OT/SS’ permanent as a future issue. It’s annoying as a strategy. Politicians prove so many ways it’s about them and not about us.


24 posted on 07/04/2025 5:42:05 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

Good analysis, thx M44.


25 posted on 07/04/2025 5:48:04 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Fresh Wind

Check your junk mail. Mine went into the junk mail.


26 posted on 07/04/2025 5:49:32 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: one guy in new jersey

Here in s a positive way to look at it. In future elections, people who live off tips or SS who might otherwise vote democrat have an incentive to vote republican if republicans run on making these cuts permanent. I don’t know the demographics involved but it would be interesting to see if some polling was done to see if there was a swing in the vote in 2024 in certain demographics based on these campaign issues.


27 posted on 07/04/2025 5:56:38 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: DesertRhino

“Even that was a lie.”
“Repubs has a big chance and blew it with another half assed product.”

I agree they are exaggerating the ‘benefits’ of the BBB, but I don’t agree they blew it, if one looks at their ‘majorities’ and the power it gives the relatively small number of assholes in the party.

More like a MIRACLE that anything passed, other than another ‘continuing resolution’.

As to the time limits, it’s hard to imagine cuts not being extended, as I cannot think of a tax cut that’s ever been allowed to expire (one of the reasons we have $37T in debt, by the way).


28 posted on 07/04/2025 5:57:22 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Stonewall1

exactly


29 posted on 07/04/2025 6:03:49 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: Bernard
And this is from the Republicans? They treat their older voters the same way Democrats treat blacks; just enough to vote for them again.

SS benefits were originally untaxed, and taxing them came in under Reagan. What one Republican does, another Republican can undo.

30 posted on 07/04/2025 6:37:38 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along.)
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To: dixie drifter

If JD Vance is president it stays vote often.


31 posted on 07/04/2025 7:47:25 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: BobL

I think the total tax savings possible, but not for everyone is $1,500 a year.

People need to remember, they did not eliminate taxes on social security as originally stated when the bill was introduced.


32 posted on 07/04/2025 7:51:05 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Bernard

“And this is from the Republicans? They treat their older voters the same way Democrats treat blacks; just enough to vote for them again.”

You got it. The bill was one big bait and switch. Promised a lot then delivered little promised.


33 posted on 07/04/2025 7:51:47 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Magnum44

“But the Trump tax cuts are permanent now.”

Define ‘permanent’. Sure, taxes do not sunset soon, but there is always another bill to jack the rates again.


34 posted on 07/04/2025 7:52:43 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

But dems would have to run on raising the tax


35 posted on 07/04/2025 7:59:54 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

Sadly, that usually was true, but it seems far too often the republicans also introduce tax increases. The SALT reduction was once such tax increase for millions of people.


36 posted on 07/04/2025 8:04:37 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Magnum44

“Permanentizing” prior (temporary) tax cuts was a strong campaign plank for Trump in ‘24.


37 posted on 07/04/2025 8:29:14 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: CodeToad

“I think the total tax savings possible, but not for everyone is $1,500 a year.”

Agree, for one person, about twice for a couple if they’re in the “Sweet Spot” which is AGI just under $150k for a couple. Social Security doesn’t even factor in, as it makes no difference whether the couple collects $100k a year in Social Security or $0k. Obviously most people over 65 are collecting some Social Security...so it is claimed that the tax cut is directed at SS, but then money is fungible, so it’s meaningless.

The reason they keep bringing up Social Security is to make it sound like Trump is (mostly) keeping his promise...can’t blame them for doing so.


38 posted on 07/04/2025 8:49:57 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Fresh Wind

“”I did not.””

Nor did I..probably because I get my emails the old fashioned way - not on a smart phone!


39 posted on 07/04/2025 9:04:51 AM PDT by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: BobL

Ah, so it IS retro for 2025. Kewl


40 posted on 07/04/2025 10:52:15 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (First, I was a clinger, then deplorable, now I'm garbage. Feel the love? )
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