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To: daniel1212
You decry my “bombastic insolence” while hurling insults—“cultist,” “liberal,” “preterist”—and mocking my reliance on the Fathers. This is hypocrisy. Your 12-hour bike-fixing sob story doesn’t excuse your failure to engage. If time’s so precious, why write a rant accusing me of spiritualizing Scripture without a single counter-text? Your appeal to 2 Timothy 2:25 (“repentance to the acknowledging of the truth”) is rich—you’re the one clinging to a modern heresy, not me.

Repent of your dispensationalist division and return to apostolic unity (John 17:21).

Your response is a smokescreen—no apostolic texts, no exegesis, just insults and a dispensationalist link. Revelation 20’s “thousand years” is the Church age, where Christ reigns now (Ephesians 1:22–23), not a future Jewish kingdom. Your literalism mangles Scripture’s symbolism, ignores the Fathers, and fractures God’s people, contradicting Galatians 3:28. The Church, built on Christ (Matthew 16:18), is the new Israel, fulfilling prophecy (Romans 15:8–12). Your “hundreds” of promises are Old Testament texts misread through Darby’s lens, not New Testament truth.

Drop the Precept Austin crutch and face Scripture. Show me one apostolic verse teaching your Jewish millennium, or admit you’re peddling a 19th-century fable of dispensationalism. The Catechism (CCC 676), Augustine, and the Bible stand firm—your dispensationalism is a house of sand.

Repent, and let’s seek Christ’s eternal kingdom together (Revelation 22:5). I’m waiting for that text, but I won’t hold my breath.

199 posted on 07/09/2025 8:59:39 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
Show me one apostolic verse teaching your Jewish millennium, or admit you’re peddling a 19th-century fable of dispensationalism

Are you blind or just insolent and arrogant? I needed only start with Revelation, for was John not an apostle? What is issue here in the light of clear teaching of the 1,000 reign of Christ, and the fulfillment of the extensive prophesies of Ezekiel, Zechariah, and which comport with related ones in Isaiah, is your recourse (along with preterists) of spiritualizing these away.

Thus, if I were to forsake others awaiting help in my morning to evening labor, and provided more apostolic teaching and its prophetic foundation, then you would also blithely dismiss it as referring to a literal earthly kingdom, as if all the extensive detailed descriptions of Ezekiel, Zechariah can all be relegated to the Heavenly Jerusalem that awaits the final battle over the enemies of the people of God.

Yet before I go on to others worthy of help and or edification I will briefly cite the Lord stating thru John,

And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. (Revelation 2:26-27; cf. Psalms 2:8, 9, 149:5-9; Dan. 7:22)

And again,

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6)
And which Zechariah speaks of,
And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. (Zechariah 14:16-19)

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. (Revelation 20:2-3)

During which,

And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. (Zechariah 14:16-19)

For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord [functioning as administrator and judge] and Christ. (Acts 2:34-36)

Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. (1 Corinthians 15:24, 25) And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God [the Father, as regards functioning as the Lord over all once again] may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15:28)

Which test (the devil being bound, yet man sins) is followed by the final battle and putting all enemies under His feet,

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

And is followed by the Lord God Jesus judging and sentencing the lost, with their degree of punishment being determined in accordance with how much light and grace was given, (Lk. 10:12-13, 12:47, 48) and with the saints being as judges:

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:7-15)

And in which judgment believers will be part of the jury in the judgment of men and angels, (1 Corinthians 6:3) for this great white throne judgment occurs 1,000 years after “the first resurrection” (Rv. 20:6) the “resurrection of life, (”(Jn. 5:29a) at of “the judgment seat of Christ,” which is only for believers, and who will be judged as to rewards or loss thereof due their manner of workmanship in building the body of Christ, the church. (Lk. 14:14; cf. 1Cor. 3:8ff; 4:5; Acts 24:15)

However, your dismissal-response to such brevity itself evidences that providing more apostolic verses and their prophetic basis would be met with the same recourse as before, thereby manifesting that you are simply not fit for more, as long as you are bound to force all Scripture to cultic conform to a self-proclaimed one true church.

212 posted on 07/10/2025 5:33:49 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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