The Heresy of Dual-Covenant Theology

Catholicism.org ^ | January 28, 2008 | Brother André Marie

[17th Miss Regt]

Incoming fire!

[ConservativeMind]

Who is now following God?

[Judge Bean]

Great question. Gentiles (Christians) were grafted in. The graft cannot destroy the root or the tree would die. If the Covenants with Jews were dissolved, what makes Christians think their covenant with God will survive? See what I an getting at?

[Angelino97]

Who is now following God?

1 John 2:23

Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.

[wardaddy]

No I don’t and I’m not near the thumper scholars here are

[Angelino97]

Jews who deny Christ are broken branches. They have nothing to do with the root, which are the Jews of ancient times who followed God.

Broken branches can be grafted back. But a broken branch cannot rely on the Old Covenant. Only the New Covenant will graft them back.

[lurk]

Let’s see your permit from the county to go all Dahmer on your lambs bulls goats and doves if you love the old covenant so much.

And let’s take a look in your fridge and closet to see if you’re serious about it.

[Valpal1]

Don’t be fooled into thinking God has stopped keeping his promises to Abraham and his descendants just because the main one has been fulfilled by Christ.

There is no room for anti-semitism in the gospel.

[BipolarBob]

The Mosaic or Sinaitic covenant, involved God's promise to make Israel a "treasured possession" if they obeyed His voice and kept His covenant. These were laws of ordinances and ceremonies designed to keep His people focused on Him as he was their protector in the world (hell bent on destroying them). They involved blood sacrifices. These laws made nothing perfect but were to prepare them for the coming Messiah. They are no longer applicable as the supreme Sacrifice was made on our behalf. Covenants were often conditionally based.

[linMcHlp]

The “new” of it: We do not live exclusively by rules (the “old” of it) - faith was being swept aside, and Jesus showed up to correct the course heading.

[Angelino97]

Who are you talking to? Your post makes no sense.

[lurk]

The old covenant required animal sacrifice. Heb. 9:22.

[Angelino97]

Don’t be fooled into thinking God has stopped keeping his promises to Abraham and his descendants

Matthew 3:9

And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.

[Angelino97]

Okay, I understand now.

[Valpal1]

Also revoked is a very inaccurate to use in regards to the old and new covenants. Revoked and superceded are not synonyms.

[fidelis]

Saving for later.

[Salman]

I am an ex-atheist Christian with some Jewish ancestry on my mother's side.
I never practiced Judaism. Neither did my parents.

I don't like being referred to as a "Messianic Jew", even though I know that is technically correct.
I did not come to the Christian faith by way of studying Judaism, and I don't like the implication that
I'm in a separate category from Gentile Christians. Didn't Saint Paul say "neither Jew nor Greek"?

[imabadboy99]

Many Christians have made false idols out of Israel and Jews.

Jesus was clear that no one comes to the Father except through the Son

John 14:6

[Angelino97]

There is no room for anti-semitism accurately defined in the gospel.

But as with "racism," the term "anti-Semitism" is mis-defined. The term casts a very wide (and false) net, encompassing anything offensive (however truthful) as "anti-Semitism.