Posted on 07/01/2025 3:06:15 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Until today, there have been no confirmed reports of Storm Shadows being deployed since November last year.
VLADIMIR Putin's officers have been killed in droves in the first British-made Storm Shadow strike in months, reports claim.
Bombshell footage showed the damage in Donetsk amid claims of “massive casualties among Russian officers” and the “crippling” of a mad Vlad fighting force.
If confirmed, it would be the first use of the British-supplied missiles in months.
Red-faced Russian authorities admitted only that a woman had died and three people were wounded, including a teenager.
A building collapsed in the combined missile and drone strikes, with fire spreading to nearby shops, according to Russian reports.
And both Russian and Ukrainian sources revealed Britain's state-of-the-art Storm Shadow missiles were involved in the major strike.
Ukrainian sources said the strike was on the Donetsk Research Institute of Non-Ferrous Metals - a military target used by Russian occupiers.
Ukrainian channel Supernova+ said the strike was on “the headquarters of the 8th combined arms army of the Russian Armed Forces”.
The report revealed: “The building is penetrated to the basement. [The dead] are being taken out in batches.”
And journalist Ivan Yakovina said: “Clear results of the recent Nato summit - cruise missiles supplied by the UK and France today destroyed the headquarters of the 8th Combined Arms Army in Donetsk and a massive depot with an oil terminal in Luhansk.
There were massive casualties among Russian officers at the HQ.
“They were confident that Ukraine no longer had the means to strike at such depth, so they didn’t even bother to go down to the shelter during the alert."
(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...
Once again, you are presenting a false narrative. Russia's demands have been consistent from the beginning. These include the reduction of the military to a token state, the replacement of the elected government, and the suppression of the promotion of the national Ukrainian identity. Russia has been demanding the complete surrender of Ukraine from day one. It has not been an escalation because of rising Russian casualties. Putin has definitely rejected the notion of freezing the conflict in place, demanding that Ukraine evacuate additional territory before peace talks can even begin. Zelensky has accepted Trump's proposal of a ceasefire; Putin has rejected it.
You are also treating Ukraine's efforts to defend itself as if were a disobedient child who has not rights to do so. I know, this is a view held by many Russian nationalists. Russia has only reaped what it has sown. There would be no Russian casualties if not for Russia's invasion. Even now they could stop if Russia agreed to a ceasefire.
As for Ukraine's ability to defend itself against this Russian invasion, its resistance for the last 3 1/2 years puts a big hole in the image inevitable Russian victory. Russia is facing serious economic strains and it is questionable how long they can keep up their efforts. Victories do not always have to come on the battlefield. The Russian Empire collapsed in 1917 not because of German advances, but because it could no longer sustain the war. The same happened to Germany a year latter.
Yes, and Mr. Z put on his suit at the last visit to the White House.
US: Money, weapons, intel, debt, training, logistics, political top cover.
When you make yourself DEPENDANT on someone, you become a lot like a child.
It is STILL you that does not accept that we took over Ukraine in 2014 and you ramble on about the Russians, Russians, Russians. Ukraine is a US satellite state.
And if that parent wants an extra special mineral rights deal, they get it, because they have in a sense, assumed guardianship.
We gambled but lost the bet: NATO East expansion into Ukraine.
In negotiations both sides will have to compromise, and both sides have issues where they are less flexible.
Ukraine will lose a lot of land now. That is unavoidable.
Eventually, NATO states will provide less support, because that is just the way the political winds are blowing. Most of the new leaders in Europe and of course Trump want this war to end. Most of the political parties that are gaining ground in Europe want this war to end. Popular opinion no longer supports more money and more weapons being given to Ukraine both in the US and Europe.
ESPECIALLY if anther and more pressing (real issues of national security) arises, example Iran and this issue persists to sponge up a lot of resources, Ukraine will get set down hard. I am sure the leadership in Kiev was sweating bullets during the 12-day war.
Your knowledge of history is very limited.
Germany did not unconditionally surrender in 1918. Their emperor was toppled and the folks that assumed power were literally politically naive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdication_of_Wilhelm_II (They had a coup while he was out of country)
The peace deal that ensued (Versailles) was not unfavorable because Germany was unable to sustain the war as you suggest. It was because the German side was represented by idiots.
Germany had entire regiments that had not even deployed to the front yet and was able to sustain the war for a lot longer, likely until we ourselves would want to negotiate an end to it.
Likewise, Russia had Lenin in 1917:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin
Who started a communist revolt which more or less weakened Russia internally to the point where they could no longer fight against the Germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk
Don’t quote history you know little about, or at least research it and write something that is factually accurate.
Yes, I do not accept it because it did not happen. You only have conspiracy theories that the following elections were not honest, not facts. I do not share your paranoia. Nor do I view everything that has happened in Ukraine through the lens of a hatred for a deep state/globalist bogeyman.
And what caused those two revolutions? The same could happen in Russia again. Nor were the great powers defeated on the ground in Ireland, Algeria, Vietnam, or Afghanistan. The point remains, victory on the ground is not the only way to win.
Parent: https://oversight.house.gov/timeline/ukraine-11/biden-firing-ukraine-prosecutor-clip/
And the child has to let Viktor Shokin go.
Parent: https://news.sky.com/story/trump-offended-by-zelenskyy-not-wearing-a-suit-in-white-house-13319114
And the child wears his suit now: https://www.reuters.com/world/zelenskiy-opts-more-formal-calibrated-wardrobe-ahead-trump-meeting-2025-06-25/
Parent/child:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/01/world/what-we-know-about-trumps-ukraine-mineral-deal-intl
And this is where they became our child: https://youtu.be/L2XNN0Yt6D8?si=nV3DEo1ytkD44hZO. This is the US deciding WHO IS IN WHAT POSITION IN UKRAINIANS GOVERNMENT and you want to pretend that’s a sovereign state?!?! Are you being funny?
That’s after we admitted to spending >$5 billion on buying influence in Ukraine prior to 2014.
You might not “accept” that you have to pay taxes or will die some day either. Won’t change the facts.
Ukraine is an ally and we want the war to end. But if we push to hard for a quick end, the terms for Ukraine will not be favorable.
We also don’t want folks fighting on our side dying as we make back handed deals or pressure Ukraine (don’t want to be like the British empire, example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushveldt_Carbineers).
The goal here is to bring a out an end to this war under the most favorable terms for Ukraine possible. Since Ukraine is our child, it will be us (Trump / Putin) making most of the real decisions even if these are out of the spotlight and we let Mr. Z do the speaking before a camera.
And if Putin, as he has stated, will not accept anything less than total surrender?
Unlikely,
Nations like China, the US, Russia, Germany, UK, France, have these huge security apparatus’s today.
In fact, the security and stability created by these security apparatus’s is itself a threat to the democratic process and while we laugh and make fun of the Russians and all their suicides, the exact same problem/threat is over here.
There is a definite trade off between security/stability and freedom.
As a society seeks ever more security from threats real or imagined, may these be physical between people, national security, emotional, economic, environmental, it ((IS)) trading it’s freedom for that gained security.
That is why JD Vance rightfully so has commented on the obvious suppression of the AfD in Germany. You have an opposition political party basically being suppressed by the national Intel and law enforcement which of course represents the interests of the existing political powers: SPD, CDU, FDP and Greens.
The security apparatus becomes a threat to democracy.
What do you think the FISA on Trump tower in the first election of Trump was really about?
When they went after general Flynn?
J6 and how that was handled?
And when you had senior Intel folks claiming Hunters kiddie porn laptop was Russian collision...
When you get these extremely powerful Intel and law enforcement arms of government, they inevitably get sucked into the political fray and that is extremely dangerous. We have it also...
Dude, every single relative except his son, all friends, political and business associates of Trump were investigated before the first time he became President.
It was sickening. They chopped it up (compartmentalized it) and every field office (there’s 56 of them) had maybe 2 or 3 people they were digging into.
That’s neither right nor does it promote a democratic process. It also tells you a lot about the type of people you have in senior leadership positions in the FBI. If you told them to put Jews on trains to Auschwitz, they’d do it if they think they’ll get their bonus and a good rating.
Talk.
He may as well claim he’ll end the war in 24 hours.
Russia DOES have elections, they DO have a media, and the publics opinion DOES matter.
Not everything said should be taken literally. Some things are to appease certain groups, or to groom an appearance, or out of personal frustration in that moment, but these things aren’t going to really define the outcome.
Putin is also under pressure to end this. Don’t think 45,000 dead, 390,000 casualties, the effect of the sanctions, attacks into Moscow, terror attacks (those we really should shy away from even if they are effective), our IO operations which are spilling into Russia, isn’t putting any sort of pressure on him.
He's a de facto dictator of a nation that has eliminated the opposing political parties, shut down print papers, radio and TV that dare say anything derogatory. Journalists are sent to prison for saying the wrong thing, or get a visit by the TCC.
He's pretty “secure” in his position and not worried about real opinion polls (all they publish are total BS polls from Kiev), an opposition politician, or bad press.
If he doesn't do as we tell him, we'll likely push for elections in Ukraine, and since they're the child, that's what will happen and he'll be gone. His true support is single digit, as in under 10%.
Bullshit
I have followed this even before euromaiden
Including corresponding with uke ethnic Russian rebs some who died
Uke govt most certainly killed their own citizens
Anyone can verify this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ5y21DXU98
I, too, remember the outbreak of all this and the multiple incidents of the Ukraine killing its own people and blaming Russia.
If you specifically look for it, but it’s not going to just pop up on its own.
Google pushes this stuff down.
That video, on a controversial topic, and one in the news/media (Ukraine war) has been on YouTube for 3 years and has a whopping 168 views. Why do you think that is?
I can’t even find any links to where we had hearings in Congress discussing this and the national socialist (Nazi) issue before the war. Like it never happened.
And you think that Russia is better?
So does North Korea. If you are saying that Russian elections are fare, you are not being serious.
I use Yandex when I know google is fooling around
Or opera
Nice misrepresentation of the facts. There are many opposition parties in Ukraine. The only one's that were shut down were those supporting Russia, with whom Ukraine is at war, if you had not noticed.
Statistics gathered by the UN, based on numbers that the two Donbas “republics” themselves provided, do not support your claim. Show me some actual statistics that show otherwise.
When we eliminated the Russian voice from the Western sphere entirely, we set the stage for this conflict.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45D4jV6YQUo
We have been suppressing Russian social media, Russian news media, and Russia has no real lobbying effort in the US nor contributed to any political campaigns and the parties in a direct or meaningful manner. We do not really do a lot of trade with them, and they are in fact a “competitor” for oil and gas on the global stage. They are not a manufacturing base of US firms like China (PRC) is.
-- Imagine you're in business and have a meeting about things which will impact different departments.
-- The head of one of the departments impacted isn't invited to the meeting.
-- You just start making decisions about budgets, personnel moves and office space and everyone ensures their interests are served, withe manager of one department impacted missing.
The Euros and US, NATO, and Ukraine all made a decision, but Russia that was seriously impacted wasn't included.
With no one presenting the Russian point of view, the West chose a course of action regards Ukraine that was unacceptable for Russia and then was surprised in how the Russians reacted, making up our OWN narrative to fill the void, i.e. the BS we were spoon fed about “unprovoked”, or “Russian aggression,” or “Putin being a mad man.”
In fact, it has reached the point where even though we mass censor in the West, and we publish outright propaganda from Ukraine, if you merely mention the Russian perspective, it gets the “propaganda label” stamped on it, but the copy and paste jobs written by Ukrainians and published in US media don't.
Entire topics which should be interesting to some readers or pertain to an important and what would be a controversial issue, go unreported.
•Stories about Ukraine hiding their tanks and arty early in the war next to residential areas weren't reported on.
•The massive use of mercenaries by Ukraine, how they are recruited in the West, their casualties, who is financing them, is not reported on.
•Weapons and other equipment sent to Ukraine found in Gaza and Mexico is not reported on.
•The forced conscription and beating of conscripts gets minimal coverage (we're supposed to believe Ukraine is excited to fight to the last Ukrainian).
•The state of Ukraine's economy in terms of debt, GDP implosion, gets minimal coverage.
•Ukraine's demographics and the nightmare there gets no coverage.
•Ethnic Russians in Ukraine don't exist according to our media and we don't talk about how their church is dealt with either.
•We don't talk much about how Ukraine canceled the elections, banned opposition parties, shut down print, radio, TV media, and jails journalists that are derogatory about the war - but we do use the argument of Ukraine being a “democracy” to support the war effort. The lack of Russia being at the table in the decision making, even just having their voice heard, helped cause this war.
There are many political parties in the US, the only ones I want shut down are the Democrats and everyone associated with them.
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