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Russians advance slower than a SNAIL with 50k pinned down as Putin’s summer offensive mired in Ukraine’s ‘dronegrinder’
Sun UK ^ | Sayan Bose

Posted on 06/29/2025 9:10:30 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

THE Russian invasion of Ukraine has been advancing at an incredibly slow pace - with Kyiv's "dronegrinder" warfare miring Putin's summer offensive.

The rate at which Moscow is capturing land has been dubbed "slower than a snail" - all while the human cost of Russian casualties is sky high.

After 448 days of fighting inside Chasiv Yar in Donetsk Oblast, the Russians reportedly only managed to take control of 50 per cent of the city.

Which means the troops, on average, are only able to take 0.00629 square miles of land per day - which is a painfully low conversion rate.

Even snails, which have a speed of 0.03 miles per hour, can cover more land than what the Russians have gained in the region.

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To: TexasGator

“Russia is losing a thousand troops a day.”

Out of a pool of fifty thousand troops? Are they packed together like sardines? Can you cite a reliable source?


21 posted on 06/29/2025 10:06:33 AM PDT by odawg
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To: marcusmaximus
Putin is a fool. Instead of using the rising tide of Russia’s post Soviet prosperity to raise Russia’s standard of living and Russia’s standing in the world, he spent that money to raise another yet another invading orc army of conquest.

Stupid is as stupid does, so Putin then sent his orc army on a fool’s errand to take Ukraine, thus ending the rising tide of Russian prosperity.

As the tide of prosperity begin to recede from Russia, it financed and propelled Putin’s conquest of Ukraine forward, swiftly at first, but ever more slowly as the tide ran out, eventually leaving them stranded where they are.

Inevitably, the cycles of life repeat and so now the tide has begun to rise again and the Russian orc army will not be able to swim against it.

The tide that had carried them forward will now carry what’s left of them back to where they came from.

22 posted on 06/29/2025 10:13:46 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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To: Tom Tetroxide; odawg

Can you cite a reliable source?

21 posted on 6/29/2025, 1:06:33 PM by odawg


23 posted on 06/29/2025 10:19:47 AM PDT by TexasGator (1.DD logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: 9YearLurker

“Russians are famous for a slow, grinding approach to war.”

LOL! Younshould go study history!

Will this be Putin’s Afghanistan?

Wiki:

The decade-long confrontation between the mujahideen and the Soviet and Afghan militaries inflicted grave destruction throughout Afghanistan and has also been cited by scholars as a significant factor that contributed to the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991; it is for this reason that the conflict is sometimes referred to as “the Soviet Union’s Vietnam” in retrospective analyses.


24 posted on 06/29/2025 10:25:47 AM PDT by TexasGator (1.DD logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

With an near 80% dead to wounded loss rate, they will be a lot of Russians who will not make it off the battlefield.


25 posted on 06/29/2025 10:28:56 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Link please


26 posted on 06/29/2025 10:36:59 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: PIF; Tom Tetroxide

Russian daily casualty rate:

2022 - 340

2023 - 693

2024 - 1180

2025 - 1286


27 posted on 06/29/2025 10:41:21 AM PDT by TexasGator (1.DD logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: PIF

Same for the Ukes.


28 posted on 06/29/2025 10:42:35 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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To: TexasGator

I’m just watching the encirclement here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itGxvx1Zu3w


29 posted on 06/29/2025 10:44:02 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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To: TexasGator

“Can you cite a reliable source?

21 posted on 6/29/2025, 1:06:33 PM by odawg”

And your point is? Can you cite a reliable source. You are not one.


30 posted on 06/29/2025 10:50:17 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Tom Tetroxide

“I’m just watching the encirclement here.”


After advancing to Pokrovsk, Russian forces set their sights on encircling the city from the west, to sever its vital logistical lines, and forcing Ukrainian defenders to abandon it under threat of encirclement. The Russians hoped to avoid the brutal urban battles that had previously drained their forces in Bakhmut and now at Toretsk. The idea was to isolate Pokrovsk without having to storm it directly and achieve at least a less costly victory.

However, this plan soon fell apart. Ukrainian forces first managed to halt the Russian advance westward and then began a series of aggressive counterattacks to reclaim key positions. Ukrainian tactics were highly mobile and adaptive, using “thunder runs” with swift, small-unit assaults designed to shock and disorient entrenched Russian forces.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/05/01/frontline-report-what-russian-commanders-plan-in-pokrovsk-and-what-actually-happens-there-are-two-different-wars/


31 posted on 06/29/2025 10:56:22 AM PDT by TexasGator (1.DD logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: marcusmaximus

Let’s see....the Sun is.....Oh that’s right! Another British Tabloid. Shocker!


32 posted on 06/29/2025 10:56:39 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Can you admit that since Russia held 20% in 2022 and now holds 20% Evans they are bogged down and going broke financing this?


33 posted on 06/29/2025 11:02:36 AM PDT by TexasGator (1.DD logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: marcusmaximus
This from the left-leaning PBS:

Russia has launched the biggest aerial attack since the start of the war, Ukraine says

34 posted on 06/29/2025 11:06:56 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: odawg

“And your point is? “

Just noting that you didn’t provide a reliable source for your post.


35 posted on 06/29/2025 11:08:16 AM PDT by TexasGator (1.DD logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: mass55th

Thank you for posting how inept Russia’s military is. From your link:

“Russia fired a total of 537 aerial weapons at Ukraine, including 477 drones and decoys and 60 missiles, Ukraine’s air force said. Of these, 249 were shot down and 226 were lost, likely having been electronically jammed.”


36 posted on 06/29/2025 11:09:58 AM PDT by TexasGator (1.DD logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: TexasGator
Can you admit that since Russia held 20% in 2022 and now holds 20% Evans they are bogged down and going broke financing this?

Evans?

They've made only minimal territorial gains since the initial phase, that is certainly true. I don't see that they're going broke financing this. I'd say they're under some financial pressure....so is the US and Western Europe on the other side. The question is who is going to break first? From everything I've read, Ukraine is running out of men which is hardly a surprise given their significantly smaller population.

37 posted on 06/29/2025 11:10:59 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Tom Tetroxide

At what cost to the Russians? How many soldiers are they losing per unit of ground? How much equipment is lost? Is the ground taken of strategic value?

In my opinion, those are the more important questions.


38 posted on 06/29/2025 11:25:48 AM PDT by SpirituTuo ( )
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To: TexasGator
I see you missed this:

"Ukraine’s air force said one of its F-16 warplanes supplied by its Western partners crashed after sustaining damage while shooting down air targets. The pilot died."

39 posted on 06/29/2025 11:31:30 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: FLT-bird

Russia could be forced to end the war in Ukraine because it will run out of money to pay its troops, according to experts at the DC-based Institute for the Study of War.

The country has burned through roughly half of its $106 billion liquid sovereign-wealth fund, which is used to pay troops’ salaries and new recruits bonuses, experts said.

Moscow can likely only afford another 12 to 16 months of fighting at its current pace, with about 30, 000 to 45,000 Russian troops killed or injured in Ukraine each month since its 2022 invasion began, ISW’s Russia team lead George Barros told The Post.

Though Russia has other areas from which they can pull funding for its war aside from its dwindling sovereign wealth fund, it is the easiest place to find quick cash to finance the conflict, Barros said. Plus, “it would be a massive embarrassment” if Moscow depletes “this nest egg that they built for two decades,” possibly risking Russia’s domestic support for Putin and his war.

Moscow is currently suffering upwards of 1,200 casualties per day, a rate that began to increase late last year “as Russian forces made gradual, creeping advances in eastern Ukraine,” according to the ISW report.

Meanwhile, Ukraine — which relies on modern, live-preserving military technology instead of Russia’s soviet-era systems — has a loss rate of roughly one casualty per four Russian losses.

https://nypost.com/2025/04/12/world-news/moscow-wont-be-able-to-afford-troops-in-ukraine-past-2026-experts/


40 posted on 06/29/2025 11:33:32 AM PDT by TexasGator (1.DD logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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