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like infants too young for vaccines

This is just a snippet of how the medical-media-academic industrial complex have destroyed their “authority” in this matter.

They lie: For the record professors, per the CDC there is no such thing as “too young for vaccines.” The CDC Guidelines would have a baby get two vaccines at birth, another vax at 1 month, five vaccines at 2 months, and a total of TWENTY-ONE vaccines by 6 months of age.


1 posted on 06/15/2025 6:57:41 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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safe AND effective


2 posted on 06/15/2025 7:04:38 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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And it’s PROPAGANDA TIME!

For leftists, vaccines and fake science is a Sunday devotional.


3 posted on 06/15/2025 7:05:20 AM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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Rational thinkers follow the money.


4 posted on 06/15/2025 7:06:36 AM PDT by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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That reminds me: how are our FReeper COVIDians these days?!


5 posted on 06/15/2025 7:08:11 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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More propaganda.

They are shameless.


6 posted on 06/15/2025 7:09:12 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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7 posted on 06/15/2025 7:09:31 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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They sure liked to use the term “free rider” often. And they felled to mention that people have access to authortative voices such as Dr. Malone.

Starts off with, “As professors with expertise in vaccine policy and health economics, we argue that the decision not to vaccinate isn’t simply about misinformation or hesitancy.”

Now anyone could have saved their time by stopping right there. Their view is that reading graphs trumps actual scientific knowledge and experience. I did read a bit more but got bored.


11 posted on 06/15/2025 7:11:18 AM PDT by odawg
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They still don’t get it.

I’m sure there are some that count on others being vaxxed, but I think the more common risk being weighed is what disease is actually being treated vs the risk you’d acquire it otherwise.

E.g. Measles - a definite good vax choice. Common and if not vaxxed, very likely to get.

HPV - No. While it’s true that your daughter may become the whore of the town at 8 years old, most don’t. The caveat - if I’m the type of parent that encourages sexual proclivity, yes in the preteen years. If not, let them know of the option in latter teen years.

Flu - Again no, unless there is some other health problem risk factor. Too common and easy to acquire some herd immunity due to its prevalence. Plus, these vaxes are not actually updated as often as you think.

Last I checked in 2022, the flu vax was against strains prior to 2020. Though they do check what strain is prevalent every year, they usually consider the prior year’s vax sufficient. This makes it mostly useless - the odds are you were exposed to the strain since the last the vax was updated so why bother?


14 posted on 06/15/2025 7:14:42 AM PDT by fruser1
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Let’s assume vaccines are as effective as claimed and have as few side effects as claimed.

Then isn’t allowing millions of unvetted, unvaccinated illegal aliens into our country a much larger influencer of herd immunity and thus a larger issue for public health authorities than those parents who evaluate the risks and choose not to vax the kids?


15 posted on 06/15/2025 7:15:14 AM PDT by chrisser (I lost my vaccine card in a tragic boating accident.)
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rational people who trust “science”? What is called science is really propaganda. Anyone who trusts it is not rational.


16 posted on 06/15/2025 7:17:37 AM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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Thinking back to COVID: nothing says more to me than shielding the pharms from legal action if something goes wrong. Further, requiring an experimental vaccine is an oxymoron, in my book.

Data point: I'm not a religious. I spent too many years on worship committees watching the sausage being made. That said, I have more faith in our evolution and our Creator than in the warlocks in their bio labs. Keep to the process of proving "safe and effective" with scientific rigor, please.

17 posted on 06/15/2025 7:19:04 AM PDT by asinclair (Indict DNC for RICO?)
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a system in which individual and collective incentives aren't properly aligned

Communism meets medicine.
18 posted on 06/15/2025 7:22:14 AM PDT by slumber1 (Darby delenda est)
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Such a great start to a topic which needed to be analyzed logically...

...and the authors blew it. Majorly.

Such analysis is derelict - if not outright negligent - for naught of discussion of the impact of mRNA jabs and the damage wrought to confidence in the medical system by a combination of bureaucratic, medical and governmental actions.

To some of us, that’s stating the obvious.

If I had the time, I’d write a rather brutal assessment of their BS article and send/post it to slap them with a heavy dose of reality.

Whatever fantasy the authors live in may pay the bills and feed the confirmation bias for a segment of the populace, but I frame this piece as a total fail.


19 posted on 06/15/2025 7:22:47 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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Vaccination at birth is insane.

The kid needs to get the colostrum in there to develop at least some immunity first. Without that process, there’s no point to early vaccination.


20 posted on 06/15/2025 7:23:28 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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Trust is a hard thing to win back, once it is lost.


22 posted on 06/15/2025 7:25:21 AM PDT by mware
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If nearly everyone vaccinates, herd immunity – essentially, vaccinating enough people – will stop the disease's spread. But once herd immunity is achieved, individual parents may decide that not vaccinating is the less risky option for their kid.

Not arguing in good faith: This specious argument presupposes that the parents are aware of when "herd immunity" is achieved.

Regards,

23 posted on 06/15/2025 7:28:19 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Unlike some here, I thought this article was pretty good . . . for the first half. Game theory and the “free rider problem” offer useful insights into many areas of human behavior. I liked seeing how these can be applied to vaccinations.

However, the last part of the piece totally exposes the arrogance and ultimate goals of folks like the author. Be wary of same!


24 posted on 06/15/2025 7:29:37 AM PDT by oldplayer
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Even When They Trust Science

I trust science as an approach to uncovering the truth. I don't support ideologues trying to claim that they are the representatives of scientific truth.

25 posted on 06/15/2025 7:30:00 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Y. TONY YANG & AVI DOR. These are both pro-lockdown, pro-vax boobs. What is the point?


26 posted on 06/15/2025 7:31:39 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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Game theory my butt.. more line mass invasion of turd world.


27 posted on 06/15/2025 7:32:29 AM PDT by Track9 (Make haste slowly. )
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