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A Scientist Thinks the Universe Bounced Out of a Black Hole
Popular Mechanics ^ | Jun 13, 2025 | Darren Orf

Posted on 06/14/2025 8:16:24 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

Will the junk science never end?


41 posted on 06/15/2025 5:57:21 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Why you gotta go all ethnic, why it gotta be a Black hole?


42 posted on 06/15/2025 7:13:41 AM PDT by Mastador1
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To: nickcarraway

I have a theory too, it goes like this, the Black Hole ate too much and puked out our universe.


43 posted on 06/15/2025 7:14:57 AM PDT by Mastador1
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To: nickcarraway

Hell, everyone knows the only thing that comes out of black holes is black poop.


44 posted on 06/15/2025 7:31:23 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (In a way ge is right as)
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To: null and void
Latin.

The other name is Greek.

The only one that is Greek.

All the rest are Latin.

I think we can assume a joke. And since the joke has gone very stale I propose a return to Latin. For the sake of symmetry.

45 posted on 06/15/2025 8:49:04 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Yes, Uranus belongs in a symmetry...


46 posted on 06/15/2025 9:16:57 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats: fake news, fake presidents, fake beliefs, fake policies, fake protesters & fake voters!)
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To: null and void
:golf clap:

Nice one!

47 posted on 06/15/2025 9:19:32 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: exPBRrat

The Covid fraud started to wake people up about issues with science.

Hopefully a new generation will rediscover the great historical debates over the philosophy of science—and radically restructure the way modern science is done.

The current system is a disaster.


48 posted on 06/15/2025 9:19:55 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Thank you, thank you, I’ll be here all week, try the veal...


49 posted on 06/15/2025 9:25:43 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats: fake news, fake presidents, fake beliefs, fake policies, fake protesters & fake voters!)
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To: cgbg

The problem is the publish or perish paradigm at colleges\universities. For example a published scientific result is only “scientific (useful\worthwhile)” if it can be duplicated. There is no mechanism\incentive for scientists\graduate students to do that. You’re not going to get funding to show Dr Joe Blow’s result is true and students won’t get degrees participating & doing it either.

Given that its no wonder there’s a publication crisis!


50 posted on 06/15/2025 9:35:15 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

I think there is a deeper issue.

Students get good grades and rewarded for answering “correctly”.

That means that if the “approved” science underlying the “correct” answer turns out to be false then the best students have been trained to say things that are false.

There are so many examples.

If graduate students in the 1970s published analysis arguing that Pluto was not a planet they would not have been published and would not have gotten their PHD.


51 posted on 06/15/2025 9:41:28 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cgbg
A minor part by graduate school you're mostly past that.

It's publishing publishing, publishing which means grants grant grants!( often 50% for university overhead!) mean summer salaries, conference trips, graduate student tuition waivers and salaries, lab supplies, computer cost, etc. Money drives it all and money comes from grants which you get by having a publishing record.

52 posted on 06/15/2025 9:47:36 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Typo: mean = means


53 posted on 06/15/2025 9:48:20 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Right—but you don’t get to publish, publish, publish if your ideas are heretical.

It is not just publish or perish.

It is obey or perish.


54 posted on 06/15/2025 9:49:46 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cgbg

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein


55 posted on 06/15/2025 11:09:59 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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Black Hole is actually satisfying in some ways, surprised no one has already advanced the math to match it to string theory, but it still has to reduce back to the same cosmology as the Big Bang -- who begat the Beginning -- which eliminates its novelty.

It's the same problem with panspermia, makes sense comets could have populated life on Earth, but who created that life and when / how did it begin? That infinite reductive gives equal weight to life began here because why not?

Obviously this is all Almighty God's handiwork, but since God is in the details, I would like to know.

56 posted on 06/15/2025 1:54:12 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: StAnDeliver

Black holes, dark matter and dark energy have never been seen by anyone.

They are totally theoretical and determined by equations.

It is entirely possible none of them exist at all.

If so future generations are going to have a good laugh at how dumb our scientists are.


57 posted on 06/15/2025 2:06:16 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cgbg

Agree!
For all the claims that universities are home to and encourage new ideas. That absolutely false it’s go along to get along!


58 posted on 06/15/2025 3:45:39 PM PDT by Reily (U)
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To: 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Sometimes the jokes write themselves in a completely different topic, even when they shouldn't.


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59 posted on 06/16/2025 9:50:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: DoodleBob; nickcarraway
"How are we supposed to “trust the science” when “the science” keeps changing/getting it wrong?"

You are not supposed to "trust the science", since science itself is all about questioning, not trusting, everything.
So, science's great moment is less about Archimedes running through town shouting "Eureka" ("I found it"), than it is about an obscure scientist somewhere pouring over data and, on finding an anomaly, saying, "Isn't that strange?"

Of course, scientific theories endlessly tested and confirmed are what keep our airplanes in the air, our ships floating at sea, our spaceships reaching their destinations, power plants generating electricity, etc., etc.
Those all have legitimate claims of our trust, but even so, how often do planes crash, ships sink, spaceships burn up and electric power goes out?
Not that often, but it does happen, and so "trust the science" is never, ever, 100%.

60 posted on 06/18/2025 2:42:42 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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