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Always liked him. He was more in tune with the(new) house class of '94 than the others and a bigger statement would have been made even in losing('96-Dole). Missed opportunity.

He's being interviewed on Mark Davis. Check out the podcast. Davis is also giving kudos throughout to the late Brian Wilson.

1 posted on 06/12/2025 7:22:23 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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He’s right.

There’s no incentive to improve oneself when everything is handed to them for free.


2 posted on 06/12/2025 7:24:08 AM PDT by metmom ( He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.”)
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He perfectly explains why he has no problem with the rich. He lives in a rural area and his satellite signal is cheaper and better because Elon Musk is rich.


3 posted on 06/12/2025 7:24:49 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Is this the guy who used to tell a painfully long story about a red wagon and people hopping on and off as it chugs along?


4 posted on 06/12/2025 7:28:09 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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We also presumably have approximately 50 million citizens with an IQ of 85 or less.


11 posted on 06/12/2025 7:38:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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We have a system of forced wealth redistribution. Under this system if a person requires subsidy to live, or if he produces children whom he cannot support it behooves the productive to make his life less pleasant until he increases his production or decreases his consumption.

Yet another way leftists pit man against man.


12 posted on 06/12/2025 7:39:59 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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“French economists Piketty & Saez used IRS statistics on individual tax returns to get their numbers, using just wage, salary and tip income. They completely ignored the success of the Reagan years and all the business tax returns that were filed by entrepreneurs. Business income was NOT counted, and moreover, investment income was not counted, nor was Social Security, Medicare and transfer payments such as Foods Stamps, Welfare, or child support, disability, etc. Essentially, the 70% tax bracket at $105,000 in 1980 put an artificial cap on salaries, and once it was ended, salaries took off for athletes, entertainers, CEOs and small business owners........more money was created, and they did not get the money by stealing from or by exploiting others.
401K plan and mutual fund or investment income was not counted, which was a big gain by the middle class after Reagan, then with the Internet. In the 1970s, you needed $10,000 and to pay a stockbroker to invest. That changed.
Biggest ommission other than not counting business income tax returns in their communist studies of income inequality, was counting people who retired as becoming poor. Since retired people received wage, salary or tip income, they were counted as the “shrinking middle class “ in these French professor studies touted by the Left, even though many seniors owned their own homes and were living well. It’s no different when liberals talk about the wage gap between males and females as if the NBA and WNBA are the same thing, using “per capita income” of males and females that does not take into consideration how many hours worked or if somebody was a plumber or an unwed mother, a receptionist or heavy equipment operator, a public defender or a corporate lawyer, a social worker or a hedge fund manager.”


13 posted on 06/12/2025 7:41:53 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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It’s my understanding is the statistics on the poor are based on income only. Let’s say your income is $1,000. You are poor.

That you live in public housing, receive food stamps, receive heating assistance in winter, send your kids to public schools, receive Medicaid for yourself and your children, and receive cash assistance, etc. count for nothing.


14 posted on 06/12/2025 7:42:34 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The Democratic party must be destroyed.)
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Ah, that New Republic. Looking for doantions, by the way.....

Their donation message:

"As Trump pushes Project 2025—attacking the press and firing watchdogs to dodge accountability—we’re exposing every move. Your donation is how we fight back. Will you stand with us?"

The New Republic is quite like Liz Cheney and Chris Christie and other never-Trumpers.
15 posted on 06/12/2025 7:42:46 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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I tried reading that tripe but too much fluff.

When you have generational welfare, they are the privileged class. Have a problem? Throw money at it and more money and more money. I know I’m a broken record but our food budget is a third less than what the government thinks should feed the poor and, hey, why not give them free phones, internet, discounted utilities, etc. which we pay for along with a home, medical, education, blah, blah, blah. Someone, please tell me why SNAP doesn’t deduct the 360 free meals students get every year and the sometimes weekend box of food from their food stamp benefits. Oh, and there’s the summer free lunches for ages 0-21 that aren’t deducted. Nor are the food pantries they are automatically eligible for, even the income based ones, which they can visit as many times a month as they wish. Then there are churches and other charities. It sure smells of double and triple dipping. BTW, the average income for a family of 4 across the nation to still be eligible for SNAP is $50k so when someone says they only get $23/mo you know what their income is and they still get phones, internet, discounted utilities, etc. Excuse me, this household has never seen that high a working paycheck and we eat just fine on $112/mo/person and we pay our own bills. Gramm is right, a certain growing group has it waaaay too easy.


17 posted on 06/12/2025 7:46:36 AM PDT by bgill
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I think Gramm blew it in in ‘96 when he lost it after Pat Buchanan’s early success. He alienated a lot of people who might have backed him later. Dole mostly stiluck to his knitting and rode it out.


18 posted on 06/12/2025 7:51:42 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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I know people in their 70’s who have part-timed their way to poverty in old age but still subsist with their “benefits”. One of them said 40 years ago, “I’ll never work a full-time job. He succeeded.


22 posted on 06/12/2025 7:57:13 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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Families on welfare tend to expand and the spawn of the family becomes another welfare family and they continue to grow and grow. They need to be made to break the habit. It’s like the old “Don’t Feed The Bears” signs at Jellystone. Welfare families are usually referred to as garbage dump bears.


25 posted on 06/12/2025 8:03:13 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is under attack by the Messicans and their scum buddies who are here illegally.)
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There are two major living cost problems in this country: housing and health care.

The educational system is also of low quality and too expensive.


27 posted on 06/12/2025 8:13:15 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.” - Ben Franklin


29 posted on 06/12/2025 8:16:21 AM PDT by nitzy (I don’t trust good looking country singers or fat doctors.)
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In 1995, I thought that the ‘96 primary season would be dominated by a battle between Gramm and Dole. However, for some reason, Gramm fizzled out and was gone before the New Hampshire primary. Had he stayed in, I would have voted for him.


34 posted on 06/12/2025 8:31:13 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Phil is certainly on the top basket of politicians on selling out America.

Hard to find another free traitor worse than him. He was a rabid supporter of nafta, communist china, mass immigration, etc.

We once had a dynamic of lower social class of hard workers. But the open border lovers started flooding the country in 1965, and only got worse. We have several generations of citizens who were wiped out by the wage dynamic of cheap foreign labor. That becomes cemented into the social classes.

That dynamic will spread to ai and tech innovation, making labor obsolete in many areas. Mass migration and cheap labor is another form of robots and tech.

39 posted on 06/13/2025 5:26:46 AM PDT by Theoria
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