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To: Cronos

What is your point?

Another poster said that despite genetic testing saying that Palestinians are genetically Jewish, Palestinians don’t look like Jews. I pointed out that the “Jews” is he comparing them to have significant European ancestry. I provided scientific studies to back up my claim.

What exactly are you trying to say?….That not ALL Jews have European ancestry? Do you think that was what I was claiming?


34 posted on 05/22/2025 4:52:26 AM PDT by nitzy (I don’t trust good looking country singers or fat doctors.)
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To: nitzy

My pint is that Jews in general don’t have Khazar Turkic blood as most are Mizrahi non Europeans or Sephardic from the Iberian peninsula.

The Ashkenazi themselves don’t have significant turkiC blood at all


35 posted on 05/22/2025 8:28:04 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: nitzy

“The Ashkenazi Jewish population shows a mix of Middle Eastern (Levantine) and European ancestry, with estimates suggesting approximately 50–60% Middle Eastern and 40–50% European ancestry, primarily from Southern and Eastern Europe. Some studies, particularly those examining Y-chromosomal haplogroups, have identified minor signals of East Asian or Central Asian ancestry, which could theoretically be linked to Turkic populations, as Turkic groups often have some East Asian genetic components. For example, haplogroup R1a1 (found in ~7.5% of Ashkenazi men) is common in Eastern Europe and parts of Central Asia, potentially hinting at a small Turkic influence, but this could also stem from Slavic or other Eastern European populations.”


37 posted on 05/22/2025 8:49:40 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: nitzy

Quantitative estimates of Turkic ancestry are low, typically less than 2%, based on studies of autosomal DNA and uniparental markers (e.g., Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA). For instance, a 2013 study by Behar et al. found no significant genetic contribution from populations in the Caucasus or north of it, which would include Turkic groups like the Khazars. Similarly, a 2019 study of Khazar remains showed no genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, reinforcing that any Turkic input is negligible.”


38 posted on 05/22/2025 8:50:04 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: nitzy

And there are issues about the study you quoted:

The 2012 study by Eran Elhaik argued for a Khazar contribution, citing genetic similarities between Ashkenazi Jews and modern Caucasus populations (e.g., Armenians, Georgians) was criticised for using problematic proxies (e.g., assuming Armenians and Georgians represent Khazars, despite their non-Turkic origins) and for ignoring shared Middle Eastern ancestry that could explain the similarities. Subsequent studies, including a comprehensive 2013 analysis by Behar et al. with 1,774 samples, found no evidence of Khazar ancestry, emphasizing that Ashkenazi Jews are closer to Middle Eastern and European populations than to Caucasus groups.One possible Khazar signal is the Ashkenazi branch of mitochondrial haplogroup N9a3, which may link to a Turkic population (e.g., Bashkirs), but this is a minor lineage and not widely distributed. Even in studies suggesting a small East Asian component (potentially Turkic), the proportion is estimated at 1% or less.


39 posted on 05/22/2025 9:02:54 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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