Posted on 05/13/2025 6:28:33 PM PDT by grundle
Target requires airtight video proof before it will accuse anyone of shoplifting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JtA0eR9kIo
Wal-Mart, on the other hand, gets its jollies off by making false accusations against innocent people:
https://x.com/Mappy6984/status/1921904453122158604
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When the Walmart door person asks me if I have a receipt for something, I just smile and say, “Sure do,” and keep going. But then I haven’t stolen anything, and I don’t like being accused of theft even by implication.
My Walmart doesn’t ask for a receipt unless you got a cart full of groceries.
Interesting stuff there (post #15). Thanks.
But I still believe this is a property rights issue. So if I were running Walmart, I’d put up a sign that said if you refuse to show a receipt, you are then trespassed from all Walmarts.
Trespassing requires no reason at all. And a return after a trespass warning is a criminal offense.
I don’t want to appear rigid here. But shoplifting in this country is crazy out of control. Showing a receipt might just help things a little bit.
I was watching some lawyer talk about this, and he said yes, Walmart does have a right.
I do that for the same reason when there isn’t too long of a line, but sometimes they only have one cashier backed up four or five deep.
Once upon a time, you could return an item at Walmart without a receipt. It took awhile, but they finally realized that there are no bigger crooks than the general public. People were eagerly stealing stuff and returning it for cash.
This has little to do with Wal Mart and everything to do with getting a video on Tik Tok.
“At over $430 billion, the Walton family is the richest family in the world. The Hermès family—purveyors of scarves, neckties, perfumes, and handbags—is the fourth-richest family in the world at $170.6 billion. The royal families of Qatar, Abu Dhabi, and Saudi Arabia are near the top of the list, thanks to their countries’ abundant oil wealth.”
They havin’ a really jolly ol’ time
“When the Walmart door person asks me if I have a receipt for something, I just smile and say, “Sure do,” and keep going. But then I haven’t stolen anything, and I don’t like being accused of theft even by implication.”
EXACTLY what i used to do and exactly how i felt when our local walmart was briefly trying that gambit ... they didn’t do it for very long, though, since there was nothing they could do if you didn’t show a receipt ...
here is what grok3 says:
“can walmart demand a receipt for something a customer paid for upon exist and if a person does not comply, can walmart legally detain them?”
Walmart, like other retailers, can request to see a receipt when a customer exits to verify purchases, especially for high-value or unbagged items, as part of their loss prevention policy. However, this is not a legal mandate, and customers are generally not obligated to comply unless specific state or local laws apply.
If a customer refuses to show a receipt, Walmart’s ability to detain them is limited. Under U.S. law, retailers can detain a person only if they have probable cause to believe the individual has shoplifted, based on the “shopkeeper’s privilege” doctrine, which varies by state. Probable cause typically requires direct observation of theft, such as seeing the customer conceal an item or bypass payment. Refusing to show a receipt alone does not constitute probable cause for detention in most jurisdictions.
If Walmart detains a customer without sufficient evidence, they risk legal consequences, including claims of false imprisonment or civil rights violations. However, if a customer is suspected of shoplifting and probable cause exists (e.g., security footage or employee observation), Walmart can legally detain them briefly to investigate, contact law enforcement, or recover stolen goods, depending on state laws.
In practice, Walmart’s policy often involves asking for receipts at the door, but escalation to detention is rare unless there’s clear evidence of theft. Customers can politely decline to show a receipt and leave unless confronted with a specific accusation backed by evidence. If detained, customers should remain calm, avoid physical resistance, and request clarification of the reason for detention while asserting their rights.
Wal Mart cannot demand to see your receipt unless they have probable cause that you were stealing. It’s different at membership stores like Costco and BJs and Sam’s Club because it’s part of the membership agreement. Wal Mart does not have any such agreement.
Yeah, it’s a slight annoyance to me, so I slightly annoy them back. So far it hasn’t gone further, and if they someday decide to bar me from Walmart, well, I guess we’ll both survive.
As far as I’m concerned, though, if they want to stop theft, they can get busy and catch actual thieves rather than try to make all of their customers play along with their security theatrics.
Target is choosing to just ban customers it catches shoplifting without the expense of the judicial system.
Walmart video records every square inch of its stores. So I’m not so sure about the false accusations part.
SORRY-—A STORE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DEMAND A RECEIPT BEFORE YOU EXIT.
YOU ARE STILL ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE HIRED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT REASON.
Many higher end stores now have locked doors & only a few people are let inside at any one time, and doors are locked until they leave-—after paying for purchases.
COSTCO has checkers looking at your cart & receipt at the exit. ALWAYS HAS -—FOR YEARS
SO WHAT????
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO COMPLETE YOUR SHOPPING-—DON’T GO.
THE REST OF US WAIT IN LINE-—POLITELY
Your comment is a complete non-sequitur. You sound insane. The all-caps is more evidence.
We don’t have COSTCO or Sam’s here...just B.J.’s.
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