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Zelensky, European leaders tell Trump they are ready for 30-day ceasefire
Axios ^ | 5/10/2025 | Barak Ravid

Posted on 05/10/2025 7:34:24 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: marcusmaximus
Trump needs to walk away from this war and funding it in anyway or he'll end up owning it.

There is no national interest in Ukraine until war ends and the minerals deal starts.

And, quickest way to end it is to cutoff all military aid to Ukraine.

81 posted on 05/10/2025 12:12:50 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

You need to have a serious talk with Medvedev about his drinking problem.


82 posted on 05/10/2025 12:16:07 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan
Breaking: The US has approved the transfer of 125 long-range MLRS missiles (MARS II, M142 HIMARS) and 100 Patriot interceptor missiles from Germany to Ukraine.
83 posted on 05/10/2025 12:19:15 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: JonPreston

Did I say I liked blowing stuff up?

Why so pedantic? Did someone drop a house on your mom?


84 posted on 05/10/2025 12:27:44 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Kazan
Ukraine signed, reneged and went back on the offensive.

Why do you always pass over Russia's violations of the Minks accords?

85 posted on 05/10/2025 1:11:31 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: rdcbn1
Ukraine attacked Moscow with hundreds of drones and now they demand a 30 day ceasefire.

Did you somehow forget about the 3 years+ that Russia has been bombing Ukrainian cities?

86 posted on 05/10/2025 1:14:08 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
Ukraine attacked Moscow with hundreds of drones and now they demand a 30 day ceasefire.

Did you somehow forget about the 3 years+ that Russia has been bombing Ukrainian cities?


Nope, have perfectly good memories of that.

You seem to not grasp that the Ukraine is losing and they need to cut a peace agreement on the best terms that they can muster ASAP because their negotiating position gets worse on a daily basis.

Who is to blame and who did what to who in the past is not relevant - all that is relevant is how to respond to the difficult situation the the Ukraine finds itself in at this moment

Instead of embracing peace negotiations , Zelensky and his foreign backers do everything they can to derail any peace talks and to goad Russia into attacks.

87 posted on 05/10/2025 1:59:29 PM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: rdcbn1
You seem to not grasp that the Ukraine is losing and they need to cut a peace agreement on the best terms that they can muster ASAP because their negotiating position gets worse on a daily basis.

Except that they are not. They have held the line for over two years with the Russians obtaining only limited success after the first onrush of the invasion. You also are ignoring Russia's "peace" terms. They go way beyond just holding on to the land already conquered. Russia is demanding what would be nothing less than total surrender. Russia has given Ukraine only two choices: fight on or surrender and the loss of the independence of their country.

88 posted on 05/10/2025 2:07:11 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Guess we are going to find out about how much capability Russia has and if Ukraine is winning or losing in the near future.

The reality check is going to be rather unhappy for all sides, but my take is that Russia has the resources to control the battle field and defeat the Ukrainian opposition.

The Ukrainian troops will put up a good fight and it will cost the Russians and Ukrainians heavy losses but in the end the Russians will win. If the Russians go all out and make a breakout, it could end quickly.


89 posted on 05/10/2025 2:20:40 PM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: mass55th; marcusmaximus; Petrosius
Are you celebrating today? May 10th, 1945 is the date that Ukraine’s Galician SS Division surrendered to U.S. and British Allies.

Sadly, we lost an opportunity to DeNazify Ukraine back then,

We could have Tried and Executed those Uke Nazis back then and continued to present day.

No Uke Nazis, no problem in Ukraine.

90 posted on 05/10/2025 2:45:00 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (President Trump Decisively Won Popular & E.C., Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: DesertRhino

” They snubbed the Russians at all VE Day events, and hotels a NATO leader insult event on victory day.”

Having a separate Victory Day was a Stalin insult to the Western Allies that Russia kept going with. The West is right not to attend it.


91 posted on 05/10/2025 11:28:15 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1

Bullcrap.


92 posted on 05/11/2025 5:21:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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To: Kazan
Speak American, you rus pig.
93 posted on 05/11/2025 5:24:15 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: marcusmaximus

Both parties to hostilities are running out of other people’s money.

Kinda hard to continue when that happens.


94 posted on 05/11/2025 5:24:49 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: Vermont Lt
If you mean, I feel like everyone should mind their own business, I guess i am somewhat of a personal libertarian. Very fiscally conservative.

When you support American tax dollars going to Ukraine for a war that isn't our business, you aren't very fiscally conservative. But thanks for admitting you are a libertarian. That explains so much.

95 posted on 05/11/2025 9:44:18 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: DesertRhino

What is bullcrap? That Stalin and the Soviets ran a smear campaign against the Western Allies for decades? That they even accused us of collaborating with the Nazis when it was them doing it from the get-go? That they said we weren’t serious about fighting the Nazis and just wanted the Soviet Union to do all the fighting?


96 posted on 05/11/2025 10:05:25 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: JonPreston

You are quoting facts not in evidence.

You are a Russian sock puppet with Putin’s smeg on your chin.

See how that works?


97 posted on 05/11/2025 10:50:05 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt
You are a Russian sock puppet with Putin’s smeg on your chin

I knew it! You sound exactly like a libertarian (with a heavy dose of interventionism)

98 posted on 05/11/2025 11:11:09 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Vermont Lt
You are quoting facts not in evidence

I had no idea we were in court?


99 posted on 05/11/2025 11:14:49 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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