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Where Did Odysseus Really Travel to in Homer’s Odyssey?
Greek Reporter ^ | May 3, 2025 | Caleb Howells

Posted on 05/03/2025 3:35:51 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: rellic

He had a prototype of a typewriter.


21 posted on 05/03/2025 4:03:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: rellic

Poets didn’t write, back then it was all told from memory.


and because it was told from memory it used vivid words, pictures to tell the story.

They would imagine a room for example, have different objects in the room would remind of parts of the story. The teller would walk through the story in his mind.

We ,if doing it right. will create a word picture or emotion to help us remember a name.


22 posted on 05/03/2025 4:05:16 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: PGalt

I was just thinking this. And why gender theory isn’t more popular.


23 posted on 05/03/2025 4:07:41 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: PGalt

One of my favorite stories. What about Scylla and Charybdis? I always thought that was the strait of Messina. And what about the island of Calypso?


24 posted on 05/03/2025 4:07:59 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: nickcarraway
There is as real Netherworld in Italy. See Robert Temple's Netherworld

25 posted on 05/03/2025 4:08:05 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin

Penelope. She told suitors she’d be ready to be courted when she weaved a burial shroud for her husband, but she unraveled it every night.


26 posted on 05/03/2025 4:18:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
This would take him to the coast of Africa, far west of Egypt, perhaps to Tunisia.

I worked I Tunisia in early 1970s and we were told the island of Djerba was the Ilead’s Isle of the Lotus Eaters.

27 posted on 05/03/2025 4:19:28 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Wife: And where have YOU been Mr Greek warrior?

Odysseus (in Sam Kinison voice): Not that you would care, but I was blown off course by heavy winds, and I was attacked by monsters!! Oh oh ooooohhhhh!!!


28 posted on 05/03/2025 4:24:20 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: nickcarraway
We don't know if there was a real person named Odysseus.

If I remember correctly, 7 of the 10 years after the fall of Troy were spent on Calypso's island--she wouldn't let him leave.

29 posted on 05/03/2025 4:28:15 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: nickcarraway

Its not BCE. There is no “common era”. Its Before Christ.

This Agnostic will happily tell everyone so.

Change in western terminology rejected.


30 posted on 05/03/2025 4:37:40 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: rellic

“Poets didn’t write, back then it was all told from memory.”

Yes, I heard that but I don’t believe it. The ancient poets, earlier than that, wrote their poetry down. The Egyptians wrote literature strictly for entertainment and we still have them. In fact, all the earlier civilizations wrote in poetry but the Egyptians wrote in prose, which is why we have the Old Testament in prose. The Israelites picked up the method from the Egyptians.

700 B C would be approximately about the time of the Book of Judges in Israel’s history, more or less.

And it is obvious to me Homer wrote down his writings himself.

Homer’s writngs were the Greek’s scripture, and they used his writings as textbooks in school and developed a great civilizaton with them.


31 posted on 05/03/2025 4:39:18 PM PDT by odawg
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To: nickcarraway

The real literary question is whether or not Odysseus actually went to any of these places or did any of these things.

The ‘travels’ portion of the Odyssey is only four books out of twenty-four. Odysseus, a known liar, is telling this story to the gullible Phaiakians, who aren’t really the brightest bulbs in Greece. None is this journey stuff is narrated in third person.

Odysseus is like “Well I’m about to get home; I’ve got to get my story straight about how I left Ithaca with all its best men and ten warships, and yet they’re all dead, and I, their commander, am the only one left alive.”


32 posted on 05/03/2025 4:41:05 PM PDT by bakeneko
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There is a major movie that is scheduled to be released this summer or next. I am curious as two of my Malinois are named Charybdis, and Scylla. I couldn’t bring myself to name the third Polyphemus so I named her Cerberus. I am looking forward to the movie. I read the book in HS and an English Lit class in college.

Gwjack


33 posted on 05/03/2025 5:04:41 PM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: nickcarraway

It is impossible to use “BCE” and be taken seriously.

If anyone thinks they can take such a person seriously, it’s because they are themselves not a serious thinker.


34 posted on 05/03/2025 5:12:19 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: nickcarraway
"In the seventh century BCE BC, the Greek poet Homer wrote the Odyssey."

FIFY

35 posted on 05/03/2025 5:23:30 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: nickcarraway
I read it when I was a student at Darmstadt American High School in Darmstadt, Germany and found it to be a fascinating because many of the places Odysseus visited were only a few hundred miles away. The teacher was a rookie, but nonetheless, she was effective in getting us interested in the story, and we used names like Scylla, Charybdis, etc., as insults.

In college, I read The Odyssey twice.

36 posted on 05/03/2025 5:29:06 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: FLT-bird

When I see that, I say Oh! Before the Christian Era!


37 posted on 05/03/2025 5:42:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I didn’t like it, just watched it recently.

In my opinion, they made Odysseus out to have some kind of PTSD, he was a broken man who had to be prodded into action.

As I watched it, I thought WTF? This isn’t how I remember Odysseus from the book!

So I went back and re-read the book just to be sure I wasn’t remembering it incorrectly.

I like Ralph Fiennes as an actor, and there were a few things to like about the movie, but it was not what I hoped.

I am a bit discouraged-I love the story, but...I have not seen a version yet that does it justice, and I am not hopeful for the one coming out, although I suspect we may finally see some great looking special effects for the Cyclops and other things.


38 posted on 05/03/2025 5:43:38 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: rlmorel

I figured it wasn’t faithful to the original. My standards for movies these days have gotten more relaxed. To me, any movie that doesn’t have gender deranged people in it is passable.


39 posted on 05/03/2025 5:47:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: nickcarraway

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip
That started from this tropic port
Aboard this tiny ship.

The mate was a mighty sailing man,
The skipper brave and sure.
Five passengers set sail that day
For a three hour tour, a three hour tour...........


40 posted on 05/03/2025 5:54:26 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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