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To: nopardons
OK, it is like this, "post hoc ergo propter hoc."   Your accusation is considering a false premise.   There are a myriad of things that may cause civilizations to crumble.

The First Lady wearing a sleek black pantsuit to a Ball that wasn't even a Ball is not high on the list.   It even seems almost silly to quibble about it, considering all of the things we have seen in seven plus decades.

Please tell me you are at least an octogenarian?

48 posted on 05/02/2025 8:17:36 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: higgmeister
My age has far less to do with anything; it's the way I was brought up, that is coloring my views, which would have been the same at any age you'd care to guess I am.

Just WHY is it just oh sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo very wrong of me to NOT join in with the droolers, who praise every single thing, good, bad, or indifferent?

Any YOU have totally ignored every single extremely good post I have presented.

So, for a change, please answer the following: Are things ( behavior, lack of manners, the way people dress and look ) better now, OR were they better in the recent past?

And do NOT bring up new gadgets, technology, etc.! That, yes, is part of it ( bad behavior, etc.! ), but right now, please focus on general behavior and dress.

52 posted on 05/02/2025 8:41:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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