[MtnClimber]

The NYT has not changed.

[ClearCase_guy]

[Y]ou can’t challenge it with a sound bite. You have to go through the documents in detail, which is difficult in a short attention span era.

Difficult to fight dishonest media which operates in bad faith.

[icclearly]

This statement misses the elephant in the room!

What the hell were we doing there in the first place? A third world country on the other side of the planet that snuffed out over 60,000 of our future lives? Tell the mothers, wives, and families exactly why their loved ones' lives ended so early and their dreams were shattered. Why? What was it all for?

Guess what? We followed Vietnam with more of the same, but getting worse at each turn. We're still at it today on steroids after running up $37 trillion in unsustainable debt and doing so while ignoring the rot inside our own home.

We're paying the price now. And, unfortunately, it's likely to get worse in the short to immediate future.

That ole' light on a shining hill is not quite as bright as it used to be.

There you go. Smart. Real smart.

[Openurmind]

I once had a two hour discussion about that Vietnam situation with McNamara and misses McNamara. They broke down and we talked while I repaired their car at my shop.

[sauropod]

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[ComputerGuy]

Today is the anniversary of the fight for Hill 881 South. Over forty Marines and Corpsmen died for that worthless piece of real estate that a single B-52 could have leveled in an hour. I hope to meet McNamara someday and discuss things with him. I’ve been waiting a long, long time.

[ealgeone]

Vietnam is a lesson on how NOT to fight a war. We never threatened Hanoi with invasion.

And never put an economist in charge of war.

[Who is John Galt?]

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