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Ancient Four-Legged Whale Remains Discovered in Peru Could Rewrite Whale Evolution!
Indian Defence Review ^ | April 26, 2025 | Lydia Amazouz

Posted on 04/26/2025 7:05:05 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: rellic
Now these guys claim Land animals went back into the ocean? I know they are grasping at any straw to explain Mammals in the oceans, since most large Land creatures are Mammals and warm blooded and most ocean dwellers are not warm blooded. Thoughts?

You do realize that whales and dolphins are warm blooded mammals right?

21 posted on 04/26/2025 8:33:15 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: rellic

The immense span of geologic time permits a lot of strange things to happen via evolution. If you think of a large amphibian mammal with legs as initially exploiting a niche similar to that of salt water crocodiles and otters, it makes more sense.


22 posted on 04/26/2025 8:49:30 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Red Badger

From what little I have read, a whale supposedly has elongated forelimbs(flippers). It also has greatly reduced hindlimbs. It has a very large rib cage in relation to its body. The tail has no fused end vertebrae. From the drawing of the skeleton, it looks like the tail end vertebrae are missing. Since there is no soft tissue left, one cannot determine what this creature was capable of doing.
It appears to be a whale because one can see what skeletal changes need to be done to make it look like a modern whale skeleton. Not convinced it is actually a whale ...could be related...but most likely, not a whale. It is only a proto-whale because one expects evolution to have occurred later on. IMHO


23 posted on 04/26/2025 8:51:13 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find. )
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To: Red Badger

It looks like it has heels for walking.


24 posted on 04/26/2025 9:13:33 PM PDT by IDFbunny (Crimea was never Ukraine.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

“You do realize that whales and dolphins are warm blooded mammals right?”
What made you think I didn’t?


25 posted on 04/26/2025 9:22:16 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: Red Badger
You can call it a whale, I guess.

But since we're guessing, it looks more like a prehistoric crocodile to me.

26 posted on 04/26/2025 9:37:44 PM PDT by ZOOKER
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To: Red Badger
It's not a "whale." Nor are there plausible pathways for evolutionary changes from critters like this to an actual whale given the requirement that each step be limited to 1-2 point mutations at a time (something everyone from Richard Dawkins to Michael Behe has agreed on from basic probability calculations).

Evolutionism is funny. Evolution is supposed to be driven by mutations and natural selection. Small populations should have little opportunity to express new mutations to be selected, limiting their potential evolutionary change. Yet they believe whale species that have tiny population numbers have supposedly evolved dramatically over relatively short timeframes.

Creation doctrine is the bedrock of conservatism, and evolutionism is the bedrock of all leftist thought. Individuals may be inconsistent about this, but it is impossible to build and maintain a consistent conservative worldview outside of a creationary perspective.

27 posted on 04/26/2025 9:44:34 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: Red Badger

I only came here for the HHGG quote, but didn’t happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THSY7-CxKnQ


28 posted on 04/26/2025 9:45:38 PM PDT by algore
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To: Red Badger
This remarkable find, which was made about 42.6 million years ago during the middle Eocene, is shedding new light [...]

So paleontologists are now travelling back in time to make these finds?!

Regards,

29 posted on 04/26/2025 11:49:35 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Red Badger

The theory was whales evolved in the area now occupied by India. The subcontinent bumped into Asia and ended up pushing the Himalayan mountains to their current heights.


30 posted on 04/27/2025 2:32:14 AM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: Red Badger

How high in the mountains was it found?


31 posted on 04/27/2025 4:27:25 AM PDT by ComputerGuy
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To: Red Badger

The closest, still living, genetic relative of the hippopotamus is the whale family!


32 posted on 04/27/2025 4:40:56 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: tumblindice

Don’t ask me why but that cracked me up.


33 posted on 04/27/2025 4:52:53 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Getready

They are forever searching for the ‘Missing Links’, the ‘proto-whatevers’ of evolution.

Where is the fossil of the short necked giraffe?

Where is the fossil of the flying penguin?

Where is the fossil of the snake with legs?..................


34 posted on 04/27/2025 5:23:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: rellic

planted not evolved


35 posted on 04/27/2025 5:27:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ComputerGuy

“A fascinating new discovery has been made off the coast of Peru,...”


36 posted on 04/27/2025 5:37:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

The newly discovered “four legged whale” will be named Leticia James or Stacy Abrams as recommended by NPR or PBS.


37 posted on 04/27/2025 5:42:17 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: IDFbunny

That’s boots...............


38 posted on 04/27/2025 5:55:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Love me some James Rollins adventures.

"Kowalski!"

39 posted on 04/27/2025 5:59:39 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: Nervous Tick
didn’t “evolve” — they were created.

What was God's method of development and deployment? Did He include mechanisms for self-preservation in His designs?

40 posted on 04/27/2025 6:01:29 AM PDT by GingisK
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