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To: BroJoeK
In 1864, hundreds of thousands of Union troops voted, 78% of them for Lincoln as opposed to the Democrats' "Peace Candidate", "Little Mac" George McClellan.

You should put "voted" in quotation marks, to indicate it may not have been a real vote.

You do know the Lincoln Administration manipulated the news to help him in that election, don't you? He hid damaging news stories from the public so they wouldn't know what a bloody mess the war was.

I'm trying to recall the particulars, but one of his generals conspired to create "news" or hide news in order to help him in the election.

As for the soldier's vote, I wouldn't put much stock in that. How many of them got to hear anything except what their officers wanted them to hear?

Given the underhanded style of the Lincoln government, it should not surprise me at all if they fixed the vote for the soldiers.

48 posted on 04/12/2025 12:54:47 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; x; Homer_J_Simpson
DiogenesLamp: "You should put "voted" in quotation marks, to indicate it may not have been a real vote."

And your evidence for that is what, exactly?

DiogenesLamp: "You do know the Lincoln Administration manipulated the news to help him in that election, don't you?
He hid damaging news stories from the public so they wouldn't know what a bloody mess the war was."

During the Civil War, newspapers published the only thing that really mattered to most citizens -- casualty lists.
When a family member was killed, wounded or missing, no other news really mattered.

The war itself did influence voters, and until the Union's battlefield successes in the fall of 1864, Lincoln himself believed the war was going so badly he would not win reelection.

DiogenesLamp: "As for the soldier's vote, I wouldn't put much stock in that.
How many of them got to hear anything except what their officers wanted them to hear?
Given the underhanded style of the Lincoln government, it should not surprise me at all if they fixed the vote for the soldiers."

After the Civil War, the G.A.R. (Grand Army of the Republic) and the G.O.P. (Grand Old Party) were almost synonymous.
The GAR's slogan was "Vote as You Shot", and they helped elect many Republican presidents, well into the 20th century.
So, any suggestions that Union troops were not just as committed to the Republican Party as Confederate troops were to the Democrats, is just nonsense.

Even as Radical Republican newspapers like Horace Greeley's New York Herald flipped sides from Republican to Democratic after the Civil War, Union soldiers remained loyal to the Republicans the rest of their lives.

Grand Army of the Republic memorial, Washington, DC:

55 posted on 04/13/2025 4:27:37 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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