[DiogenesLamp]

DiLorenzo claims Lincoln was a racist and white supremacist.

I have never read any DiLorenzo books, but I have seen plenty enough evidence and quotes from Lincoln to come to the conclusion that he was very much a racist and a white supremacist.

Yes he was. It's not even debatable.

Of course, the vast majority of people in that era were racist white supremacists. They just were.

[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "I have never read any DiLorenzo books, but I have seen plenty enough evidence and quotes from Lincoln to come to the conclusion that he was very much a racist and a white supremacist.
Yes he was.
It's not even debatable.
Of course, the vast majority of people in that era were racist white supremacists.
They just were."

That whole argument is ridiculous nonsense since, among other reasons, the very words "racist" and "white supremacists" were not used in those days.

Yes, similar ideas were there, but they were expressed differently, and generally were taken for granted and so not debated.

What was discussed at great length was abolition and issues related to it, such as fugitives or "sojourning" with slaves into free states.
Lincoln favored abolition and opposed slaveholders' lengthy "sojourns" with slaves into free states.
That's what mattered in the 1850s, all this other language was not used and was irrelevant to debates of the time.

By 1865, Lincoln had come to support not only abolition but also full citizenship for freed slaves.
That's what got Lincoln assassinated, according to John Wilkes Booth.

So, can we stop babbling nonsense about "Lincoln the racist"?