[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "The American war of Independence was a time when a collection of slave owning states seceded from a Union, Declared Independence, and formed a confederacy."

You know perfectly well that is complete nonsense because in fact:

1. Our Founders only declared independence more than a year after the Brits declared, and began waging, war against us.
2. Slavery was imposed on the American colonies by British law, and most of our Founders opposed it.
3. Thomas Jefferson even wrote a condemnation of slavery into his Declaration of Independence.

DiogenesLamp: "They appointed a slave owning General from Virginia to lead their armies against the Union, while the Union offered freedom to their slaves."

And, yet again:

1. George Washington opposed slavery in theory and supported abolition wherever possible.
   
2. During the Revolutionary War, Washington matched the British offer of freedom for slaves who served in the Continental Army.
   
3. Those African Americans served in integrated units under Washington.
   
4. At the Battle of Yorktown, black soldiers were observed to make up about one in four of Washington's army.

DiogenesLamp: "Those evil people seceded over slavery."

If anything, our Founders seceded to abolish slavery.

[DiogenesLamp]

DiogenesLamp: "The American war of Independence was a time when a collection of slave owning states seceded from a Union, Declared Independence, and formed a confederacy."

You know perfectly well that is complete nonsense because in fact:

Well what particular fact did I get wrong? Were they *NOT* slave owning states? My recollection is that they were. Did they not secede from a Union? (United Kingdom) It seems that they did. Did they *NOT* form a Confederacy? (Articles of Confederation)