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Posted on 03/24/2025 5:58:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
After a handful of underwhelming relationships and dozens of disappointing first dates, Andrea Vorlicek recently called off the search for a husband.
The 29-year-old always thought she’d have found her life partner by now. Instead, she’s house hunting solo and considering having kids on her own.
“I’m financially self-sufficient enough to do these things myself,” said Vorlicek, a Boston-based accountant. “I’m willing to accept being single versus settling for someone who isn’t the right fit.”
She sees her plans for an independent future as making the best of a lousy situation. “I don’t want to sit here and say I’m 100% happy,” Vorlicek said. “But I feel happier just accepting my reality. It’s mentally and emotionally a sense of peace.”
American women have never been this resigned to staying single. They are responding to major demographic shifts, including huge and growing gender gaps in economic and educational attainment, political affiliation and beliefs about what a family should look like.
“The numbers aren’t netting out,” said Daniel Cox, director of the survey center at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), a conservative think tank. He ticked off the data points: More women than men are attending college, buying houses and focusing on their friendships and careers over dating and marriage.
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Fake news.
They may not be the religious right I grant you, but online dating is pretty much the norm nowadays. That has been the case for at least a couple decades now. In other words, its a very broad cross section of society that looks to meet someone online.
News to this Millennial and my friends, all Millennials or Gen-Zers. Actually some Gen-Z women say they're giving up men altogether and joining the "4-B" movement. I don't have the stats on how common 4-B is among female Z-ers, but apparently there are enough of them for the media to take notice.
From what I can see 3 in 10 say they have used online dating apps (I admit I'm shocked its this low) though the share of younger people who have is higher according to Pew Research Center. 53% of adults under 30 have used dating apps. That broke down as 50% of males and 37% of females under 30. One in ten partnered adults met their significant other on a dating site. That rises to 1 in 5 for those under 30 years of age.
So in sum, yes there are more men than women on dating sites but 50% vs 37% means its not a banana party. And over half of younger people have used them. I'd call that a pretty broad swathe of society.
Fair enough. The two groups least in demand in general are younger men and older women. Men are hard wired to be attracted to young healthy females no matter the man's age. He may know he's got no shot and may well not act on it knowing he would just embarrass himself if he did....but trust me, he's still looking. That never stops until death.
Sorry, I forgot to add the link
https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2023/02/02/the-who-where-and-why-of-online-dating-in-the-u-s/
It is pointless to discuss broad societal ills, investigate their cultural / socio-economic / technological roots, examine their political / demographic repercussions, and attempt to formulate generalizable solutions to them with someone who has a very particular axe to grind.
You apparently have a pet peeve, a very specific grievance you wanted to air here under the guise of discussing a general topic.
Regards,
I'll grant you that men outnumber women on dating sites, but that ought not to matter!
I've never used any such dating app, but I assume that the experience for a women who has first registered herself as "heterosexual" is not impacted by the fact that men outnumber women - i.e., the hetero woman will not perceive that she has entered a pre-dating environment with skewed demographics.
Rather, she will be presented exclusively with male suitors! She won't "see" that she belongs to a tiny minority of female site visitors. So the (hidden) preponderance of men shouldn't affect her judgement or influence her assessment of male attractiveness.
In other words, the experience of patronizing a dating site is NOT comparable to attending, e.g., a 1950s-style dating event, where the handful of "Plain Janes" from the nearby village might suddenly find themselves surrounded by droves of handsome young tuxedoed fraternity men, resulting in a skewing of their self-image (they're now much sought-after "little princesses") and a distortion of the perceived worth of the male attendees (i.e.: "80% are below average").
Sure, the hetero women on the dating sites will be receiving far more attention ("clicks" or "likes" or whatever they call them) than their male counterparts - but the female app users don't realize this!
The individual female user might notice that she herself has "liked" maybe only a dozen men, while she, in contrast, has garnered literally hundreds of "likes," but she will not be so "based" as to assume that that is due chiefly and merely to a supposed preponderance of male users. Rather, she will do the natural feminine thing and assume that it's because "Men are supposed to be the ones initiating contacts - Women like myself need only stand here and let themselves be admired! It's the natural order of things." (As contrary to the feminist worldview as that is! But women are masters of doublethink!)
I would have liked to have further buttressed my point by citing findings from studies on the skewed female perception of male beauty NOT relying chiefly on data from online dating platforms, but couldn't find any. However, I think that our real-world experience is evidence enough: Men used to pay real money for a few faded and frayed nudie-pics to carry around in their wallets; men paid to visit strip joints to gawk at mediocre strippers; most classical art pedestalized female pulchritude, focussing on and idealizing female physical / sexual attributes (while males got short shrift and were portrayed mostly in heroic poses, spearing a wild boar or beheading an enemy soldier, though there are exceptions, like portrayals of St. Sebastian).
Men are visual creatures! Women aren't!
Women didn't / don't do those things because they don't really care about a man's physical appearance - unless he is a peacock who totally outshines his fellow man.
My personal experience and real-world knowledge based on the aforementioned observations confirm that: The bottom 80% of all men are considered below average, and will hardly be perceived as existent; the top 20% of all men will be mentally registered and acknowledged as "possibles"; the top 4.5% of all men will receive the same amount of active pursuit and adulation from women as the average woman receives from men.
[...] most liberal, promiscuous segment of women in an artificial environment [...]
Online dating is now mainstream. The typical young female spends more time online, "shopping" for male attention than interacting in the real world with real men.
Q.E.D.
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FormerFRLurker: The Left has declared war on everyone outside their little bubbles of self-righteousness. If they didn't hate normal women as well they wouldn't be allowing intact males into women's restrooms, locker rooms, and sports leagues. They wouldn't be shaming middle school girls as "prudes" and "TERFs" for not wanting to undress in front of a boy.
The Revolution eventually gets around to eating its own children; what you have cited is only an expression of the latest - maybe even last stage of leftist insanity, "peak leftism," if you will. For most of their history, the leftists have instrumentalized, pampered, coddled, cosseted, and pedestalized the female sex - and women, in turn, have always been the demographic upon which the leftists could most rely for support and approval.
The Left is still waging a war primarily upon men / stereotypically male virtues (self-reliance, logic over "fee-elings," peace through strength, etc.).
The Left is only now beginning to realize that they went a step too far in promoting transvestites in little girls' changing rooms, lavatories, locker rooms, and sports events, and that they won't be able to control the backlash.
But make no mistake about it: The virile male is still the chief target of the Left.
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Wait six months, and the media will be reporting on that movement to the same extent that they will be reporting on hoola-hoops and pet rocks.
The "4-B Movement" was ridiculous from the get-go. With a pert toss of their curls, the girls announced that they didn't want to play anymore, grabbed their ball, and march off to home. But rest assured, in five minutes...
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FLT-bird: this was totally contrary to my experience AND contrary to everything I've heard/read about college today. Young women have always been more pursued than young men. I guarantee that will never change.
When a system that was formerly in a state of equilibrium has become destabilized and is nearing total collapse, you will observe paradoxical and counter-intuitive anomalies like that.
When a bridge collapses, one may observe some fragments actually falling upwards (at least, temporarily). When the Twin Towers collapsed, some fragments were seen floating miles high, far from the scene of destruction.
A collapse is not an orderly process.
Articles you have seen about college boys turning down dates from "perfectly nice" women are on a par with newspapers reporting about "man bites dog."
If and when that ever becomes standard behavior eliciting at best a "ho-hum," call us!
Regards,
No, that's what we're here for. Ones and zeroes are cheap: Feel free to expound upon your personal experiences! You won't bore us (if your story becomes tiresome, we'll just skip over the boring parts). Except for a few scholarly studies touching upon the subject, all we got here is anecdotal evidence - so don't be shy! Spit it out!
I'll wager that either you are talking out of your hat, or you suffered severe facial disfigurement in an auto wreck in your teens. Or you were raised in an Amish community.
Don't be coy! Out with it!
Regards,
Absolutely correct!
Times change. Standards shift. The definition of "who is a conservative?" has evolved.
In the 1950s, a divorcée living with her openly gay teenage son and her Negro "life partner" would have been a cause célèbre in middle American suburbia. Yet they could all be conservatives in modern America.
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ANSWER: Transport any one of those self-entitled "ghetto-potamuses" or fussy White "Karens" to sub-Saharan Africa (or the Muslim Middle East, or India, or...) and see what her attitude brings her.
Within five minutes of shouting at some man who "dissed" her, she would be lying on the ground, bleeding from the mouth - with the man walking dismissively away and the crowd of native women around her laughing their hearts out.
So your answer is: U.S. men are this way because our culture vilifies masculine traits and pedestalized "The Feminine."
Do you dispute that?
Regards,
I do agree with you on the point that, if men want to be considered a prize, they should be trying to be the prize. A woman’s desire for her mate to be a prize is as valid as a man’s desire for the fidelity of a woman’s character and her loyalty.
There is no tendency for men to be abusive or users. Most men readily give their lives to their family at great cost and little reward for themselves.
It isn’t any woman in particular, but the hypergamy female culture that is behind it. Yes, men should work to be their best and be romantic, but women have been taught that such a male is a simp and lesser male than the males who don’t do that. Women today have rejected traditional male culture and values, which is why you don’t see men exercising traditional male vales and cultures. The reward is insufficient to do the work.
“There is no tendency for men to be abusive or users.”
LOL! There really is. What women need to do is learn how to spot them early enough.
No there isn’t. Yes, it needs to be detected and protected from. But the vast majority of men are good men. If you think most men are not, your view is skewed by the men in your life and are not representative of most men in general.
On dating sites, it is self-selection. Virtually 100% of the men who get picked are in the top 20% and they will not entertain a woman who does not put out by third date.
The reason for the video games in your answer is that video games offer quick rewards, while in the real world there are almost no rewards for performing well for the average man.
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