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Main landing gear collapsed on impact in fiery plane crash: Preliminary report
abc/msn ^ | 03/20/2025 | no byline

Posted on 03/20/2025 12:36:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin

There was no final cause of the crash in the report released Thursday, but the investigation found that the right main landing gear broke and collapsed on impact as the plane landed at a high descent rate.

The first officer, who was in her fifth straight day of flying, was at the controls of the plane, according to the report. She had 1,422 hours of flying total, which is below the Federal Aviation Administration minimum to be a commercial pilot.

She was able to fly commercially with a special exception from the FAA because she had a specific aviation degree and received a waiver...

About 13 seconds before landing, the plane's airspeed increased to 154 knots, "consistent with a performance-increasing wind gust," according to the report. The first officer, who was flying the plane, pulled back the thrust levers to decrease engine thrust.

Then, 2.6 seconds before touchdown, the Enhanced Ground Proximity Warning System alert "sink rate" went off, indicating a high rate of descent...

Less than one second before touchdown, the aircraft's indicated airspeed was 134 knots and its groundspeed was 11 knots, per the report. The bank angle was 7.1 degrees to the right, and the pitch attitude was 1 degree nose up. The rate of descent was recorded as 1,110 feet per minute...

No obvious preexisting malfunctions were found on the components of the flight control...

Preliminary information from the flight data recorder did not have any "caution or warning messages" about the flight controls.

While the first officer had flown for five straight days, including the same day on a flight from Cleveland at 8:19 a.m., the captain had not flown for seven days. The captain has worked for Endeavor since October 2007. He has 3,570 hours total flight time and 765 hours on the CRJ-900.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: aviation; bombardiercrj900; dei; delta; deltaflight4819; endeavorair; flight4819; iwbg
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To: rellic
I fail to understand why we are forced to put unqualified people in positions they are not ready for, based on race or Gender!

The big lie about the airline industry is that it's a viable industry. It never was. Airports, aircraft manufacturing, air traffic control - everything, is all subsidized by taxpayers. Air crews and mechanics were subsidized by the taxpayers for decades since historically most air crews and mechanics were trained in the military.

As the military scaled down flying in the 1970s and 1980s, the airline industry reached out to more civilian-only pilots. In the 1980s only 66% of airline pilots were ex-military and by the late 1990s, the airlines crossed the point where 51% of airline pilots had no previous military flight training. That number has continuously increased to where the current estimation is that only 33% of airline pilots have any military background at all.

https://simpleflying.com/how-many-commercial-pilots-have-military-backgrounds/

The high number of training hours that the individual must bear, with the risks of not progressing far enough to pay it off, remove a lot of candidates from the job market. It's one thing to have your training paid for as part of your military obligation and then fly as a civilian with a military pension, it's another to pay your own way all the way through, especially when the pay is so relatively low compared the costs to enter the field.

The airline industry, like many industries, began selling "Didn't Earn It" (DEI) hiring of lesser-qualified individuals with the intent to silence complaints by claiming any such complaints are "sexist" or "racist".

41 posted on 03/20/2025 8:26:19 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The captain should have either taken over or called for a go-around. I’m sure the NTSB will hold him responsible.

Negative. Every qualification she had was from the FAA. If she wasn't qualified, it's on her FAA examiners. This wasn't a training flight. She was at the controls as pilot in command.

Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) § 91.3 Responsibility and authority of the pilot in command.
(a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft.

42 posted on 03/20/2025 8:31:47 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

I guess you are correct.
the USA paid a shiite load of money to teach me how to service military aircraft.
Boeing hired me, I guess they got all that
Military aircraft experience for “Free”.
I got out of the military as quick as I could.
But I will say this, they train people.
Civilians beg people.
Who would you rather have in an aircraft situation,
ex military or a community college affirmative action student?


43 posted on 03/20/2025 9:02:05 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: rellic
Thank you for your service.

As for ex military versus a community college affirmative action student, it doesn't matter who I'd rather have - the military can't attract enough talent and the airline industry has made their decision; they're going with the underqualified DEI hire.

We've had a negative birthrate since the early 1970s and the powers-to-be have determined they'll go with underqualified DEI hires instead of drastically scaling back the number of flights.

It's not just the airline industry, it's most industries, and the their solution of importing swarthy replacement Americans is outright dangerous. We're living in an Age of Regression, where within people's lifetimes, they can visit ruins of actual cities they previously lived in, and regression from progress mankind has made since previous generations.

44 posted on 03/20/2025 9:14:37 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: BenLurkin
I read some place today that all three of the flight officers in the cockpit of the flipped plane were female.

That fact has been suppressed since Day One.

45 posted on 03/21/2025 3:03:57 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: BenLurkin
Repeating from the article:

The first officer, who was in her fifth straight day of flying, was at the controls of the plane, according to the report.

She had 1,422 hours of flying total, which is below the Federal Aviation Administration minimum to be a commercial pilot.

She was able to fly commercially with a special exception from the FAA because she had a specific aviation degree and received a waiver...


46 posted on 03/21/2025 3:29:53 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: zeestephen

Just two. One male. One female. Female at the controls.


47 posted on 03/21/2025 9:26:09 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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