Posted on 03/07/2025 10:37:17 AM PST by ShadowAce
They may be boundaries, but then they are boundaries that free-will can and often does cross.
What is his definition of “maverick molecule?”
i know... my dad was a high ranking police official that lived a double life... he trampled all over God’s law while enforcing man’s law...
Any molecule in the universe outside of the control of God.
OK—what does that have to do with Free Will?
Look it up.
And if you're saying God cannot be sovereign in a universe full of Free Wills, then you are merely limiting God, and putting Him in a box you can understand.
God is God. He is Sovereign. We have Free Will.
We can be "slaves to sin" and still do good of our own free will. So being a slave to sin does not negate free will.
God knows what we are going to do before we do it but that also has nothing to do with free will. Knowing what someone will do does not mean they have not chosen freely to do it.
That makes absolutely no sense. God in His sovereignty relinquishes His sovereignty, having therefore, no guarantee anyone whom He loves joining Him in eternal life? I don’t see that anywhere in the Bible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ChnTOiYXcA&t=18s
When did that happen? Scripture please. Like Acts 13:48. The church has already ruled on this: Synod of Dort.
It is for our good that God’s very character and nature puts Himself in a box.
Without Free Will, everyone does exactly what God wants them to do--following perfectly in His Will--yet most will end up in Hell.
Without Free Will, Love is impossible.
Without Free Will, commandments are not only irrelevant but useless.
Acts 13:48 does not mean what you think it means once context is given to the passage.
Jesus said many are called but few are chosen.
Acts 13:48 harmonizes with Eph 1, Ro 9, and the rest of the Bible.
Love being impossible without free will is man’s opinion.
The Commandments are the Moral Law. Its table is the standard, and is meant to force man to choose Christ because no man can keep them. No one gets into heaven without God’s explicit will, which......was one beforehand before the world was formed. Eph 1
As I said, the church has already ruled on this during 7 months and 153 Bible studies. Synod of Dort. The. vast majority of colonial pastors understood this before the American Revolution.
I guess I'm predestined to believe in free will.
It’s not a damnable heresy, so you’re good.
Free from what?
Youi think freewill is absolute? prove your case.
If you are a slave to sin, how can you make choices independent of outside influence?
If you do any good, the outside influence is God.
Your free will is subject to some outside influence. You can not be independent of that. I had good parents, taught me right from wrong. They were a gift from God.
Lets take it further. Is God Sovereign? What does that mean to you?
and then the next question. WHY IS FREE WILL SO IMPORTANT TO YOU?
If you are haunted by anything, let it be that. WHY IS FREE WILL SO IMPORTANT TO YOU?
Lets pose it another way. Is Gods sovereignty absolute or is it limited?
If your free will is absolute, then God is not sovereign.
Any “free will” you have is subject to sin, but God is sovereign, even over the sin.
WHY IS YOUR FREE WILL SO IMPORTANT TO YOU?
Greedy schmuck.
It's self-appointed willfulness intended to steal and destroy your life under the guise of a presumed super-knowledge. One pesky problem: they really don't like being subject to a popular vote. They have a political conundrum because we are distinct from animals. This professional "we" has already concluded that we are democratically outnumbered by insects and microorganisms. Saving themselves, some kind of intellectual holism draws the circle a little smaller--to exclude bothersome data--in order to lays claims to a secret "we" that has special access to a scientific teleology. "One thing is clear: we are not there yet." Now that's the new humility!
Our present system [in the Soviet Union] is unique in world history, because over and above its physical and economic constraints, it demands of us total surrender of our souls, continuous and active participation in the general, conscious lie. To this putrefaction of the soul, this spiritual enslavement, human beings who wish to be human cannot consent. When Caesar, having exacted what is Caesar's, demands still more insistently that we render unto him what is God's — that is a sacrifice we dare not make!The most important part of our freedom, inner freedom, is always subject to our will. If we surrender it to corruption, we do not deserve to be called human.--Solzhenitsyn, From Under the Rubble
Don't forget Jonah. God never overrode Jonah's will. He merely forced him to do the job God wanted him to do.
And Christ Himself: "Nevertheless, not My Will, but Thine be done." The Father never changed Christ's Will--He merely asserted His own.
History (biblical and otherwise) is full of instances where God is working against a person's will. But He NEVER alters it. See Rich Young Ruler event.
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