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What is a SCIF--Every Freeper should be able to answer this question
Editorial | March 4, 2025 | cgbg

Posted on 03/04/2025 9:07:17 AM PST by cgbg

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To: montag813

I was surprised she gave us that little look behind the curtain—but glad she did.

This issue should be openly discussed.

The secrecy has gotten out of control.


21 posted on 03/04/2025 9:23:51 AM PST by cgbg (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: cgbg

It’s a Sucky Cabbage Icy Freeze. And they’re pretty gross. My least favorite summer treat.

(Yes, I know what a SCIF is. I’ve had a security clearance for some time now.)


22 posted on 03/04/2025 9:25:17 AM PST by Allegra
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To: cgbg

Anyone involved in preventing her presence needs to be arrested post haste.

It is long past time to stop pussy-footing around on this.


23 posted on 03/04/2025 9:25:29 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cgbg

Access to a SCIF has three requirements. First is proper ID; second is proper clearance and third is need-to know. AG Bondi should have the first and third requirements met but she may still be in the process of obtaining all of the clearances needed for her job. If she lacks the 2nd then it would have been correct to bar her from having complete access to the SCIF. However, she could have been escorted in once the SCIF was sanitized to the level of her current clearance level.


24 posted on 03/04/2025 9:27:05 AM PST by DoubleNickle
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To: Robert DeLong

Do you remember the opening scenes of that show while the theme song was played with all the different doors that Maxwell Smart had to go thru to just get in, ending in a phone booth?

The real NSA HQ is practically just like that, without the phone booth!..................


25 posted on 03/04/2025 9:27:38 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: XRdsRev
I call bull on that. That is pure legalism from the deep state. If any employee of an agency can enter a SCIF then so can the appointed leader of that agency.

legalism
noun
US
/ˈliː.ɡəl.ɪ.zəm/ UK
/ˈliː.ɡəl.ɪ.zəm/
the practice of following the law very closely, especially by paying more attentionto rules and details than to the intentions behind them

26 posted on 03/04/2025 9:27:49 AM PST by wildcard_redneck ( )
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To: cgbg
I work in a SCIF, no cell phones, cameras, etc.
I also visit other locations that have a SCIF.
A VAR (or Visitor Access Request) is REQUIRED if you are not assigned to that facility *ahead* of the visit.
Then again, I'm not the AG.
27 posted on 03/04/2025 9:30:31 AM PST by red-dawg (DEPLORABLE GARBAGE)
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To: DoubleNickle

The very fact that Trump nominated Bondi and the Senate confirmed her is all the security clearance and need-to-know that she needs. Quit propagating the Deep State’s lies.


28 posted on 03/04/2025 9:31:09 AM PST by wildcard_redneck ( )
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To: XRdsRev
there could be information in a SCIF from cooperating partner agencies that even a Department head might not have a bonafide need to know

The Attorney General is often called America's Top Cop.

Do you think what you wrote would apply to that role?

Secret policing so secret that even the Top Cop can't know about it?

I don't think so.

-PJ

29 posted on 03/04/2025 9:31:14 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: wildcard_redneck

Good post—legalism is what got us where we are today.

SCIF security protocols are a part of that—and have created a climate where secret operations against the American people can be taken with senior official deniability.

That must stop.


30 posted on 03/04/2025 9:31:55 AM PST by cgbg (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: cgbg

It’s like the “cone of silence” from Get Smart, I think.


31 posted on 03/04/2025 9:32:34 AM PST by McCarthysGhost
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To: cgbg

“Compartmentalized” is an important part of “SCIF”. If you have not been read in to a specific program, you do not have access. Period.

To make up an example, if something is “TS Cat Poo”, only people who have been certified as needing to know about “Cat Poo” AND with a TS clearance could read about it. If it is “Secret Cat Poo”, then you could have a TS clearance and not be allowed access. Period. Unless you had been certified as needing to know and “read in” to “Cat Poo”.

All in accordance with the law.


32 posted on 03/04/2025 9:32:52 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: cgbg

SCIF is where you go to discuss stuff when you have nothing to hide.


33 posted on 03/04/2025 9:34:28 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: wildcard_redneck

I would have to assume you have zero experience with security clearances whereas I’ve had a TS/SCI w/ Poly since 1982. I’m not condoning the actions that took place but offering a plausible explanation of what might have transpired.


34 posted on 03/04/2025 9:34:54 AM PST by DoubleNickle
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To: cgbg

“Cabinet officials must have total access.”

No. It is important for some things to have very limited access. If Trump wants his cabinet head to have access to the “Cat Poo” program, he can authorize it. Until he does, they are NOT allowed access because they do not need to know and because when something is known by enough people, even people with a TS clearance, it DOES leak.


35 posted on 03/04/2025 9:34:56 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: DoubleNickle
If she lacks the 2nd then it would have been correct to bar her from having complete access to the SCIF. However, she could have been escorted in once the SCIF was sanitized to the level of her current clearance level.

The President of the United States gets to decide who can have clearance as soon as he says so. He doesn't need a "process" to grant security clearances.

What you describe seems like the bureaucracy of paperwork. Bondi had all the clearances she needed the moment she was sworn into her role. What you described is just the paperwork catching up with Bondi -- it can't be the other way around.

-PJ

36 posted on 03/04/2025 9:35:15 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: cgbg

The Wife and I were assigned to an MI unit our only tour of Korea. We both hated being in MI Puke unit, the only bright spots were my Motor Officer a CE CW2 and the Commander.
The Commander called my boss one day to ask us to check out the electronic lock on the SCIF. The lock was broken and would be months before parts came in. MI troops were standing guard 24/7 and Christmas was coming up.
Chief went with me and one of my E5s to check it out. The MI CW2 threw a hissy fit and wouldn’t let us in, even though we all had clearances. Chief called the CO who jacked up the MI Dweeb and we found the receiver side of the lock broken. I told chief we couldn’t weld or braze it because it was pot metal. We took it off and went back to the Motor Pool to brainstorm.
We went to the PX and found some sandbox sand, built a box and jury rigged a vacuum cleaner to it. We went to the Ville and bought an old lawn mower engine, broke it up and melted it down and did a sand cast. We spent hours with files and Dremel tool and finally took it to the SCIF to try it out. A little fine tuning and the SCIF lock was working.
MI Dweeb CW2 says “That won’t get it, it has to come from an official source and this won’t do.” Chief went up to the CO and had a pow wow. The CO told the MI Dweeb CW2 that if it wasn’t good enough for him to move a cot to the SCIF and stay until the “right” part came in. Suddenly our part was good enough. F’n MI Pukes!


37 posted on 03/04/2025 9:36:22 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Mr Rogers

That is the issue.

My view is that a Cabinet official has a need to know everything that is going on their department.

Otherwise the agency can go rogue in a hurry.


38 posted on 03/04/2025 9:36:54 AM PST by cgbg (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: DoubleNickle

Who decides the Attorney Generals clearance?
POTUS.

Unless she has been flagged somehow as a risk to national security.

POTUS IS National Security.

Not some agency bureaucrat descended from cross-dressing Herbert Hoover.


39 posted on 03/04/2025 9:37:15 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: DoubleNickle
I would have to assume you have zero experience with security clearances whereas I’ve had a TS/SCI w/ Poly since 1982.

Were you nominated by the President and confirmed to the top position of a department?

-PJ

40 posted on 03/04/2025 9:37:16 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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