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Why the COVID Deniers Won
The Atlantic ^ | 2/12/25 | David Frum

Posted on 02/22/2025 12:49:10 PM PST by DallasBiff

Five years ago, the coronavirus pandemic struck a bitterly divided society.

Americans first diverged over how dangerous the disease was: just a flu (as President Donald Trump repeatedly insisted) or something much deadlier.

Then they disputed public-health measures such as lockdowns and masking; a majority complied while a passionate minority fiercely resisted.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


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To: DallasBiff

We win because we were right and they were lying.

Eventually, truth wins.


21 posted on 02/22/2025 1:11:11 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (No American money or lives for Europe’s censorious, socialist, anti-democratic islamophiles!!!)
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To: Pollard

My sister in law got the kung flu a few weeks ago. She is certain she got it because even though she took many covid shots she didn’t get the last booster. Yeah, that’s the reason.


22 posted on 02/22/2025 1:12:09 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: DallasBiff

For the same reason I would never buy a new vehicle from a maker who refuses to offer a warrantee - with the gov’t backing them up.


23 posted on 02/22/2025 1:13:52 PM PST by decal (They won't stop, so they'll have to be stopped)
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To: DallasBiff

If you have to call someone a “denier” for asking common sense questions about life and death issues you already lost the argument.


24 posted on 02/22/2025 1:16:40 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: KarlInOhio
Because the "experts" have admitted that COVID probably did originate from a Chinese lab...

China took the opportunity to crack down on their own citizenry early, and hard. The stated reason was COVID, but it seems like there was more to it than that. Our own public health officials wet their pants and we were social distancing & masking a month after the Chinese. The intel community briefly opined that it was most likely from a lab-leak, then retracted it. The investigations need to start at that reversal. I think they wanted to let things play-out to see how much control that they could get over the general public. Fauci's finger prints are all over this.

25 posted on 02/22/2025 1:17:17 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: DallasBiff
Frum wrote: "The winner is the side that minimized the disease, then rejected public-health measures to prevent its spread, and finally refused the vaccines designed to protect against its worst effects."

Wiki reminds: "Frum stated that he voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. He is identified with the Never Trump movement, Republicans who opposed the election of Donald Trump and continued to oppose Trump during his presidency. In October 2019, Frum called Trump 'very, very guilty' of attempting to influence Ukraine to announce an investigation into Trump's political opponent Joe Biden."

As to the Frum's late-to-the-party pandemic remarks:

Mortality rate is simply calculated -- ( deaths in a population / population ) x 100 [ to present as a percentage ].

( 7,010,681 deaths worldwide / 8,207,412,656 population worldwide ) x 110 = 0.085 percent over the entire pandemic -- less than one-tenth of one percent.

Source: Worldometer, which in April 2024 stopped updating "due to the unfeasibility of providing statistically valid global totals."

My bride and I, along with many Freepers, have joked that we are in the "control group" for not having been jabbed. No "worst effects."

Mister Never-Trumper who voted for Mrs. Clinton is an idiot, and well past his sell-by date.

26 posted on 02/22/2025 1:17:18 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: DallasBiff

“Denier” is one of the words that the DemocRATz have m*****bated on. Use of it moves the argument to the “total Bull-Obama” part of a Venn Diagram.


27 posted on 02/22/2025 1:20:34 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: shelterguy
My sister in law got the kung flu a few weeks ago. She is certain she got it because even though she took many covid shots she didn’t get the last booster. Yeah, that’s the reason.

Experience from my friends and work colleagues was the same. Those that got boosted eventually caught COVID a week or 2 later. If they didn't get it, the very next time they got boosted they got the flu. The other thing nobody wants to mention is the aggressive cancers popping up.

28 posted on 02/22/2025 1:21:52 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: ASOC

Just horrific FRiend.
The coercion and Fear during that time was thick! ‘Fear Not’ were my daily Dose putting one foot in front of the Other.
J+J was my choice if I was forced as I had a couple heart attacks previously. Timing worked out to retire and leave California.
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Never Again!


29 posted on 02/22/2025 1:22:18 PM PST by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

It was Frum who liked the crease in Brooks’s pants, actually. 🧐


30 posted on 02/22/2025 1:23:06 PM PST by alstewartfan (Child slavery, rape and drug OD's mean nothing to Roberts and Barrett. )
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To: heavy metal

Only after a few months. He was the lockdown side at first.


31 posted on 02/22/2025 1:23:49 PM PST by Fledermaus (GOP RINOs - Get on Board or Get Out!)
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To: chuckb87

Well most sheep aka people willingly complied.


32 posted on 02/22/2025 1:25:15 PM PST by Fledermaus (GOP RINOs - Get on Board or Get Out!)
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To: Tallguy

“””The other thing nobody wants to mention is the aggressive cancers popping up. “””

It’s ok. In return for taking the experimental clot shot they got donuts and stuff. It’s all good.


33 posted on 02/22/2025 1:26:01 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: DallasBiff

Calling us “deniers” was a clue the leftists were lying from day one.


34 posted on 02/22/2025 1:26:19 PM PST by cgbg (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Fledermaus

everyone was at lockdown stage at first...


35 posted on 02/22/2025 1:27:48 PM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁 )
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To: shelterguy

Well... these were friends an co-workers. I may not have agreed with them. But I still have some sympathy for them. There are a few that indirectly gave me crap about not adhering to the protocols. Obviously I have a different attitude toward them and their health problems — which they continue to deny are related.


36 posted on 02/22/2025 1:39:56 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: DallasBiff

Fits perfectly with the theory that more placebos went to blue states—and loaded jabs to red:

“A summer 2023 study by Yale researchers of voters in Florida and Ohio found that during the early phase of the pandemic, self-identified Republicans died at only a slightly higher rate than self-identified Democrats in the same age range. But once vaccines were introduced, Republicans became much more likely to die than Democrats. In the spring of 2021, the excess-death rate among Florida and Ohio Republicans was 43 percent higher than among Florida and Ohio Democrats in the same age range. By the late winter of 2023, the 300-odd most pro-Trump counties in the country had a COVID‑19 death rate more than two and a half times higher than the 300 or so most anti-Trump counties.”


37 posted on 02/22/2025 1:44:34 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: DallasBiff

Saw a story earlier that a new COVID has been spotted in Wuhan. I assume this is all laying the groundwork for the next upcoming plandemic.


38 posted on 02/22/2025 1:44:48 PM PST by FrankRizzo890
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To: ASOC

“and now must take a blood thinner for the rest of my days to stay alive”

I (J&J damaged) have been wondering if I will have to stay on thinner (aspirin) and Ivermectin and iron supplements the rest of my life. I have been diagnosed with blood clots for four years now.


39 posted on 02/22/2025 1:45:31 PM PST by Cold Heart (It's a good time to be ashamed to be a democrat)
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To: DallasBiff

“The calvary ain’t coming to save you.” James Carville


40 posted on 02/22/2025 1:45:53 PM PST by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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