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As I said earlier, I checked some of Mr. Samuels’s videos. Some of the women said they earned six-figure incomes [1. They were exaggerating their incomes; 2. They nonetheless wanted HVMs earning even more.], and some of them were attractive [a small minority - and they usually had "baggage"].

The usual routine was that the women would begin by denying that they are "golddiggers." They would swear that they were willing to "settle" for a man on their level. Then Kevin would quiz them as to the sort of life they wanted. Inevitably: a husband hardly older than themselves, 3 (more) kids, international travel, stay-at-home mom - in, e.g., Atlanta. Kevin would then "do the math" and show that, in actuality, that wouldn't be possible without a high-earning man. He would point out that only 5% of men earned that kind of money, and that they were generally in their mid-40s or older. He would then confront the women with the following question: Why would a high-earner prefer her to the ten-year-younger, childless version of herself which he undoubtedly could find and attract on the open market.

He would explain that they didn't actually want the man, but rather only the lifestyle.

Mr. Samuels was devastating!

There's another manosphere site I forgot to mention in my earlier post: Insolent Insults. Very entertaining!

Right here, right now, in the 2020s, among the many families my kids and I knew, many young people have married in their early to mid-20s. Some of them were high school sweethearts. Others met in college. A few met after college. Most of them are raising their own children now. None of the young men had lots of money. The same is true in my extended family where young couples have been marrying in their 20s and early 30s, and they are very happy together.

I won't dispute your anecdotal evidence. Might still apply in rural parts of "fly-over country." But in large metropolitan areas? Doubtful.

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