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An interesting article but hardly as conclusive as the title suggests.

The article goes on and affirms 1/4 of Aztecs died from Smallpox, which is what weakened them to the Spanish invasion. And I had thought small pox was fairly proven to be the culprit overall. The article also mentions the sampling of dead for DNA samples was small, only 29 and the Sal. bacteria DNA only being actually found in 10 skeletons for certain.. Finally while I’m definitely not a Doctor, the very accurate symptoms of dying victims sure sounds like Bubonic Plague to me. What with bleeding from orifices and large “nodules” or what they called “buboes” like with the Black Death.

Seems it is still a mystery.

1 posted on 02/12/2025 4:26:51 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8

So Montezuma’s Revenge killed his own people?


2 posted on 02/12/2025 4:32:01 AM PST by ComputerGuy
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I think the author means the Mayan Ethnic peoples of Yucatan, in the 1500s..the Aztecs at the the height of their game. But let’s talk about it. Bernard Castillo Diaz made 18 references in his book about his reporting that the place was crawling with what he called Sodomites. He said they had trained their Irish Dogs to ‘sniff out’ the Sodomites, and they slew them. In jungles of Guatemala, at Mayan Ruins not even having been excavated, one sees huge large stone male penis monuments. Castillo Diaz says that any priest serving on the altar, had to PROVE he did NOT get sexually aroused when seeing a nude virgen that he needed to draw out his knife and take out the heart! He says that the fatal blow of Montezoumas DEATH was a large stone thrown from above by his nephew cursing him and using the Aztec word that described Queer or Faggot. So, Please when you factor in what happened to them, consider it might have been the entire population had same sex attraction, and no one was PRODUCING children for more sacrificies, and children to be slaughtered in their battles, and children who would die by a jaguar or viper. THAT is what I think is the probable cause.


3 posted on 02/12/2025 4:35:04 AM PST by rovenstinez
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Oh, no—done in by climate change!

“New evidence has shown cocoliztli was worsened by climate change. Between 1545 and 1576, there was a “megadrought” that spanned the entire continent. It was the worst drought in Mexico for over 600 years.”


5 posted on 02/12/2025 4:37:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Research on climate change in Mexico at the time indicates......

Lol....so climate change helped wipe them out...who'd a thunk it ???

7 posted on 02/12/2025 4:39:08 AM PST by Mopp4 ("It is a cruel world, Herr Hauptman. You said it yourself.")
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To: Phoenix8

So Fauci was alive to wipe out people even then.


8 posted on 02/12/2025 4:39:51 AM PST by Singermom
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“The Tula were a Native American group that lived in what is now western Arkansas. The Tula are known to history only from the chronicles of Spanish conquistador Hernando de Soto’s exploits in the interior of North America.”

“Gone” as that fellow walking the streets of San Francisco says.


10 posted on 02/12/2025 4:55:24 AM PST by Scram1
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***wiped out by European diseases like smallpox***

Only Europeans are tied to deadly diseases, other races aren’t.


11 posted on 02/12/2025 4:56:08 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Phoenix8

They didn’t wear a mask.


12 posted on 02/12/2025 4:57:24 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Phoenix8

I’d bet on the hanta virus.

It wiped out entire populations here in the desert SW. Left weird ghost towns of very elaborate cave dwellers, including one on my ranch.

(No, I won’t tell you where I am. Our means of protecting the site is the only people who know are some very discrete college professors. We’ve avoiding letting the gubmint know, as they’d promptly leak it to treasure hunters.)


14 posted on 02/12/2025 5:01:30 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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So “climate change” was happening before coal fired power plants and SUVs, hummmm


15 posted on 02/12/2025 5:04:15 AM PST by blitz128
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“However, DNA testing has unearthed new evidence about what really killed 80% of the Aztecs.”

Since Paratyphoid fever only killed about 1% of those infected (before antibiotics existed) it’s doubtful it killed 80% of Aztecs.


18 posted on 02/12/2025 5:26:52 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (November 5th 2024, Happy Days Are Here Again!)
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The Spanish ships were literally vessels of disease.

IMHO you cite the evidence aptly. This is just more BS study sucking $$ from the coffers so dumb, lazy scientists can pay their mortgages.


19 posted on 02/12/2025 5:39:17 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Long as we're on the subject, one of my favorite songs of all time:

   Conquistador (https://youtu.be/B0TQfpyYO38?si=uKo4Gpmbl7KywGlQ)

22 posted on 02/12/2025 5:53:21 AM PST by Dahoser (Liz Cheney needs to work on her soccer skills so she fits in when she transfers to Guantanamo High.)
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To: Phoenix8; SunkenCiv

And, even the fastestvand nastiest of the “Black Death” symptoms seem spreading by secondary infection and tertiary vectors (infected human to infect flea to carry by rat to infect fleas to infect next human) appears too slow.

I suspect something different. Something spread directly person to person like the 1918 flu was spread. Airborne transmitted, yes. But by lingering contact also.


32 posted on 02/12/2025 6:29:55 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: Phoenix8
Research on climate change in Mexico at the time

Huh, 1500s, are we sure Democrats weren't to blame?

34 posted on 02/12/2025 6:36:23 AM PST by Kudsman (Hey,, Democrat,,leave them kids alone!)
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Bubonic Plague sounds like a reasonable answer due to how they stored their food like like open bowls of grain.

Dang it puts a crimp on the liberals evil white man agenda.


39 posted on 02/12/2025 7:21:46 AM PST by Vaduz
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Soooo, big oil got the Aztecs too!


41 posted on 02/12/2025 7:45:11 AM PST by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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