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1 posted on 02/08/2025 7:05:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Nomads need about 50 sq miles per person. So, in North America, probably no more than 20 million. That’s still pretty crowded by nomadic standards, so it can’t be more than that under the best conditions. Even if you account that some natives did have urbanization.


4 posted on 02/08/2025 7:09:40 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: SunkenCiv

132,618

5.56mm


7 posted on 02/08/2025 7:13:22 PM PST by M Kehoe (Thank you Jesus. )
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To: SunkenCiv

So is this a trick question? A multiple choice question? Why did I waste my time searching for the answer only to be told we don’t know. We didn’t try to estimate the number.


9 posted on 02/08/2025 7:14:08 PM PST by sunny bonobo
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To: SunkenCiv

As usual, when you get into the weeds, things get a bit more complex.


21 posted on 02/08/2025 7:43:20 PM PST by Red6
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To: SunkenCiv

How come none of them developed a written language to give us a clue what was going on?


22 posted on 02/08/2025 7:43:59 PM PST by sopo
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To: SunkenCiv

I remember reading a book, Centennial,” written by James Michener.
In the forward, estimates were given about population of the Americas.
The time, from the first human to step on the North American Continent until the humans reached the southern tip of South America, was 14,500 years.
The average movement, Southward, was 8 miles per generation!
The only reasons to move was war with enemies and loss of food and water.
No mention was made about population numbers.
Also, the “land bridge that connected Asia to North America was much wider than I thought. I thought 60 miles or so. Actually it is estimated to be 600 miles.
Humans moved from Asia to NA and Animals moved to Asia.


26 posted on 02/08/2025 8:08:38 PM PST by BatGuano
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To: SunkenCiv

Millions of illegals come to North America but the democraps say nothing about stolen lands then.


41 posted on 02/09/2025 3:34:46 AM PST by CodeToad ( )
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To: SunkenCiv

According to an old book I have the carrying capacity of North America could not be more than one million people and probably far less. The tribes had a way of keeping themselves in “check”.
How the tribes treated each other before the White Man arrived.
https://archive.news.wsu.edu/press-release/2014/08/04/wsu-researchers-see-violent-era-in-ancient-southwest/#.U9_iumNjYzJ

https://www.science20.com/news_articles/the_most_violent_era_in_america_was_before_europeans_arrived-141847

Last days of the ancient Pueblos.
https://blairmastbaum.substack.com/p/the-terrifying-final-days-of-the
Crow Creek Massacre.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/9/crow-creek-massacre-in-1300s-remains-south-dakotas/
https://www.academia.edu/7907221/Mass_Grave_at_Crow_Creek_in_South_Dakota_Reveals_How_Indians_Massacred_Indians_in_14th_Century_Attack
Sacred Ridge Massacre.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/massacre-sacred-ridge

Human sacrifice at Cahokia
https://www.ancientpages.com/2015/08/27/human-sacrifice-at-cahokia-victims-were-locals-not-foreign-captives/
Ancient Massacre Discovered in New Mexico — Was It Genocide?
https://lostworlds.org/ancient-massacre-discovered-in-new-mexico-was-it-genocide/
Anasazi Cannibalism
https://archive.archaeology.org/9709/newsbriefs/anasazi.html

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-antiquity/article/abs/additional-evidence-for-cannibalism-in-the-southwest-the-case-of-la-4528/FB7F8B0434EA3118B716AE84EC368DC8
Basketmaker II Cave 7: Massacre or Cemetery?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440312000829

New Research Supports Theory of Ancient Massacre Site in Utah
https://www.cityweekly.net/BuzzBlog/archives/2013/09/11/new-research-supports-theory-of-ancient-massacre-site-in-utah
Massacre at Awatovi is little known act of genocide
https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/trail_dust/trail-dust-hopi-massacre-at-awatovi-is-little-known-act-of-genocide/image_830b57c1-78ad-5775-8b72-ed47dd6aba23.html
How genocide wiped out a Native American population
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39268873

Isotopic and genetic analyses of a mass grave in central California: Implications for precontact hunter-gatherer warfare
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26331533/
Buried with their MOTHERS’ SKULLS:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3280870/Why-4-300-year-old-bodies-buried-EXTRA-skulls-500-graves-unearthed-California-showing-signs-bizarre-burial-rituals.html
And who can forget the Cherokee Slave Rebellion of 1842.
https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=SL002

How Native American Slaveholders Complicate the Trail of Tears Narrative
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-native-american-slaveholders-complicate-trail-tears-narrative-180968339/
And not a white man around to blame it on for centuries.


44 posted on 02/09/2025 7:01:09 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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