Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

China’s “Artificial Sun” Shatters Fusion Record With Over 17 Minutes of Plasma
Scitech Daily ^ | January 23, 2025 | Chinese Academy of Sciences

Posted on 01/23/2025 6:12:39 AM PST by Red Badger

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-33 last
To: Red Badger

When I graduated as a nuclear engineer in 1976, practical fusion power was supposed to be 25 to 50 years away. Near as I can tell it still is.


21 posted on 01/23/2025 9:04:48 AM PST by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nuke_road_warrior

I get the feeling that TPTB don’t actually want it to happen at all. They just want the issue to dangle in font of us like a carrot on a stick to the donkey...........


22 posted on 01/23/2025 9:06:41 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger
Apparently, China increased the burn time by injecting more energy into the overall reaction (i.e. lowered the efficiency).

All they really did is run a longer stress test on the cooling system.
23 posted on 01/23/2025 9:18:41 AM PST by indthkr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

The ITER in France is a massive construction. Quite impressive.


24 posted on 01/23/2025 10:14:05 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

Yeah right. I’ll believe this like I believe they did not make the WuhanFlu. And, that most everything else coming from there can operate more than six months.

BS!


25 posted on 01/23/2025 12:26:34 PM PST by bobbo666
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: butlerweave

A lot, and coal power is the way out of this current dearth of power supply. Use it, build parts for smaller nuclear power plants, steel for cars, trucks, concrete, Iron for ships and missiles. Coal is natural and with the best filtration systems is really very clean.


26 posted on 01/23/2025 12:28:42 PM PST by Glad2bnuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Glad2bnuts

I should have added, President Trump needs to put together a study group of REAL scientists and put to rest the myth of global climate change caused by excessive atmospheric CO 2. Delist it from a pollutant to a necesary part of our cycle of life on Earth.

WE NEED TO BURN THINGS, the planet thrives on the Carbon cycle.


27 posted on 01/23/2025 12:31:08 PM PST by Glad2bnuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

Cubic inch by cubic inch our own bodies generate more heat than the sun. This is because ordinary Hydrogen does not fuse well. A Proton can bounce around for billions of years inside the suns core before it fuses to something else.

It is the isotopes of Hydrogen like Deuterium and Tritium that are needed to make fusion work here .


28 posted on 01/23/2025 5:38:09 PM PST by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ArcadeQuarters
...And ten years from now it still will be...

Einstein believed that actual measurement of Gravity waves would never happen. It took a century but now it is almost routine.

29 posted on 01/23/2025 5:41:32 PM PST by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Ezekiel
Red Moon on the eve of the Inauguration

I like watching the moon rise or set. It is often red or orange. In the daytime when the moon sets it looks like it simply dissolves into the sky.

30 posted on 01/23/2025 5:47:08 PM PST by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Nateman

Picky Protons................


31 posted on 01/24/2025 5:24:35 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Glad2bnuts

You cannot burn coal in air (nitrogen&oxygen) and not create NOx ,SOx and heavy metal vapors. No amount of post combustion filters or precipitation devices can remove those to zero/zero/zero levels. Especially the heavy metal in vapor form which is a product of combustion physics in an air fired process. You will never get the heavy metals down to part per billion or less levels. There is no safe level of biological exposure to heavy metals, science is clear on that.

So coal will never ever be clean it cannot physics limits it. You can make it cleaner but it will never be as clean as natural gas or even cleaner nuclear power. Nukes only release noble gasses to the air which are chemically and biologically inert.

You can clean coal before you burn it via gasification processes which do not use nitrogen atmospheres this eliminates NOx, with the lower temps of controlled gasification you also do not form heavy metal vapors they stay in the ash as solid oxides, while water soluble they are at least contained in the ash not up the stack inot our air and drinking waters. Then you can clean the syngas via a six stage gas clean up down to part per billion or less levels of SOx , and other VOCs such that all you are left with us CO,H2 and some CH4 all that get burnt in a gas turbine with SCR cats in the tail end to scrub out the NOx that still forms when you burn anything at high temps in air not pure oxygen.

You could go the oxy fired route and have a air separation plant next door feeding oxygen only to the turbines and gasification plant this would mean close cycle gas turbines using argon as the inert gas vs chemically active nitrogen in air. Co2 could also be used as the inert gas for closed cycle tirbines.

Syngas also works with solid oxide fuel cells eat CO or H2 as anode fuels with pure O2 on the cathode side you get CO2 and water as your only exhaust products. You have to have ppb or less sulfur levels or it will kill the fuel cells catalysts so only 6 stage clean syngas works there.

Coal burnt in air is best left in the dust bin of history it will always put out heavy metal vapors and NOx,soot and sulfur oxides no amount of post combustion filters can get it to zero or even to the same clean level of your average gas turbine. That’s just how physics works. Mitsubishi are the world leaders in coal gasification and they can get close to gas turbine clean but still not as clean as just burning methane without all the cheap that is in coal, the rock itself is loaded with impurities and contaminates there is no way around that fact.


32 posted on 01/25/2025 5:21:17 PM PST by GenXPolymath
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: GenXPolymath

Coal is the fuel that builds solar and wind turbines. How much pollution is being emitted, doing that, as compared to clean coal energy in the US? You can’t smelt iron with wind or solar, you nead coal to make coke, to melt steel.


33 posted on 01/25/2025 7:11:59 PM PST by Glad2bnuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-33 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson