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To: tired&retired
The Rev's presentation, as 1 other Freeper indicated, was based on MLKJr.'s "I have a dream" speech which MLKJr delivered during the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom on August 28, 1963. The content seemed appropriate considering it was afterall, the MLK federal holiday. The delivery style was over the top and hard for me to watch, but that may well be a matter of personal style/choice. After watching the 2021 PBS documentary mini-series, "The Black Church", I guess the Rev's delivery was similar in style to the "Mississippi Whoop". Being an introvert, I have always been skeptical of theatrics in matters of worship. I know that will offend some devout charismatic and pentecostal Christians. Here is an example ... YouTube - Benny Hinn Let the Bodies Hit the Floor, 00:02:54 minutes
66 posted on 01/20/2025 2:31:07 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

It was not what he said, it was how he said it. There are many different techniques. I can put a person into trance without saying anything. These are things they teach in stage hypnosis. The techniques are often used by ministers when they deliver their sermon without even knowing they are doing it. They just know it gets responses similar to the way folks on here responded to the minister today.

I’ve studied this extensively, even evaluating professors of homiletics to learn the various techniques. It’s ok that people don’t understand it. I was just trying to help people to not go through the difficult experiences. But if they choose to, that ok with me.

I’ve done so much research and have had so much experience in this area that I would not expect people to understand. Maybe I’m not communicating it very well.

If you were to give me a congregation of any size, it would be easy to demonstrate. I’ve done it at conferences when lecturing on this topic as part of my demonstrations. I stop with the group just before trance and demonstrate with one person as I teach people how not to be vulnerable to it.

It’s a 4 step process that leads to the attendees locking onto the voice of the minister and losing individual discernment. People who are very easily subject to it respond the same way many have responded to my comments on this thread. Those who don’t understand it are the easiest to manipulate by a minister.


68 posted on 01/20/2025 4:03:13 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: MacNaughton
Being an introvert, I have always been skeptical of theatrics in matters of worship. I know that will offend some devout charismatic and pentecostal Christians

Some enthusiastic folks tend to uposet others at times...

14 And David danced before the Lord with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

15 So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the Lord with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.

16 And as the ark of the Lord came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the Lord; and she despised him in her heart.


112 posted on 01/21/2025 6:42:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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